Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kepple Disney

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. &mdash; Xezbeth 19:21, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Kepple Disney
Grandparents of famous people are not notable. I think this article has been through VfD before, but I can't find it. RickK 05:37, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Almafeta 05:59, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Please explain your votes. RickK 06:05, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * If you need one: He's notable enough for Wikipedia.  Almafeta 06:08, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * That's not an explanation, that's just a restatement of what you already said. An explanation would state why you think he's notable.Isaac R 01:20, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I think "keep" votes need not be explained - articles are presumptively to be kept, unless they can be shown to lack encyclopedic criteria. The burden is on the person voting "delete" to justify their vote (as I have below). -- BD2412 talk 14:06, 2005 Jun 3 (UTC)
 * But that isn't going to convince anyone to change their mind or vote keep; a really cogent explanation might.RJFJR 16:52, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * There's no rule that says you have to explain your votes -- but maybe there should be. Even though we call our opinions "votes", we're not counting heads here. We're supposed to be building a consensus. If people just throw out their opinions without trying to participate in the discussion, they're showing no interest in consensus building. If nobody's interested in consensus building, then we're all wasting our time! Isaac R 01:20, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Guide to Votes for Deletion says, For best results, please show your working to indicate the reasoning underpinning your vote. This allows others to suggest compromises if necessary, or to point out alternative courses of action that might not yet have been considered. It also allows administrators to determine, at the end of the discussion, whether your concerns have been addressed, and whether your comments still apply after a rewrite of or a significant change to the article that occurred subsequently.. RickK 04:11, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP is not a geneology database. I can understand royal lineages, but I don't think we need a separate article for each relative of each notable person. Kepple is already mentioned in Elias Disney and Disney family articles and that should be enough. I couldn't find a previous VfD, but noticed that Kepple Disney II has been speedily deleted (valid speedy per CSD #A1). jni 06:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, this isn't WikiGenealogy.   [  +t,  +c  ] 06:46, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. RickK establishes why. Harro5 08:14, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Just because your grandson becomes famous does not automatically make you notable. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 09:08, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete not inherently notable. JamesBurns 09:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable. -- BD2412 talk 14:06, 2005 Jun 3 (UTC)
 * Delete. Being related to notable people does not make you notable. Gamaliel 16:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge into Walt Disney if so desired. 216.158.31.195 17:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable himself. --Etacar11 17:35, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. We don't need geneology info and he's already mentioned elsewhere. Redirect to Disney family if desired. Seems a better idea than redirecting to "Walt Disney". Mgm|(talk) 19:13, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * My bad. Didn't know there was a Disney genealogy. Definitely belongs there, then. 216.158.31.195 20:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a genealogy site, not even for famous people. Martg76 21:52, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * ... whereas Wikitree is a genealogy site. There is a nice shiny entry for Kepple Disney at Wikitree.  This person does not fulfil any of the WP:BIO criteria and this article contains only genealogy. Delete. Uncle G 01:49, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)


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