Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kerika


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Contrary to the single "keep" argument, WP:N is an editing guideline at en.wiki, and one of the most common reasons for deletion. It's status as a guideline, not a policy, but not just an essay either, was upheld by consensus at an RFC last year. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Kerika

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As detailed as this article is, it covers a wiki application (Kerika) that doesn't seem to have any real notability. Kerika, the company and application, seems to have been active from around 2002 to 2007, and during that time never had any notable usage or press coverage, as far as I can tell. Yaron K. (talk) 02:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.  -- - 2/0 (cont.) 07:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can't find independent coverage in reliable sources. Pcap ping  08:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Opposed to deletion. The software and the company are still active, and new users continue to use the product, particularly in the academic and non-profit communities, so it is not correct to state that the company and application have been inactive since 2007. The Kerika article doesn't meet any of the criteria for deletion, which, presumably is why the proposal for deletion is based upon the fuzzy concept of notability, which itself is poorly defined, changes constantly, and lacks any consensus within the Wikipedia community.  If this is all that's the foundation for this proposal, it makes for a very shaky proposal indeed.  Note: I am the original author of this article; everyone contributing to this debate should disclose potential conflicts of interest. Spy99 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 04:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC).
 * Comment Alright then: I'm a MediaWiki developer, which is a potential conflict of interest. By the way, lack of notability is one of the criteria for deletion in the list you linked to; and I think it's the most common one. Yaron K. (talk) 07:11, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Response Not all conflicts of interest are the same, and having a potential conflict of interest isn't a red flag in itself; it is important to examine the specific conflict of interest that may apply in a specific situation. In this particular situation, the person proposing the deletion has an direct, commercial conflict of interest since the company that he founded and leads (| WikiWorks) gains whenever Kerika or other wiki software are marginalized by being tagged as "non-notable".  Furthermore, the timing of the original proposal for deleting the Kerika article raises concerns that the conflict of interest is actual and not just potential: the request was made less than a week before WikiWorks started its marketing campaign on Twitter and its blog . Spy99 (talk) 00:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That's true, yes, I also do MediaWiki consulting, which I should have mentioned. The timing is coincidental; I've been working on improving wiki-related articles here for the last few months. Not that it helps me to have the timing be coordinated. Thanks for plugging my company, though. Yaron K. (talk) 01:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.