Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kerry Blair


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 21:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Kerry Blair

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Writer who has no notability established. Books published by a tiny press called "covenant" apparently only for Mormons, and which is so ruinky dink that its books are not even carried on Amazon.com. Obnly possible claim to fame was that article had claimed she won a "lifetime achievement award" from a group that only gives them to Mormon authors and which she is listed as a member of the award committee and that was created by another author nobody ever heard of who also is published by "Covenant". DreamGuy (talk) 03:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep While I admit that the article is a stub and needs significant expansion, I find DreamGuy's deletion argument strange. Several of DreamGuy's points (such as: that Covenant only publishes Mormons, and that Kerry Blair won an award only given to Mormons) are irrelevant because Blair publishes in a niche market.  Just because the publisher and awards are Mormon-only doesn't mean that they are not notable.  I will get to work on improving the article, but I think that DreamGuy doth protest too much.75.169.49.204 (talk) 19:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Grammar police: "doth protest too much" means that someone says they like something so much or vows something so vociferously when asked that it seems that they are overemphasising insincerely, losing credibility. It's from Shakespeare, dontchaknow. Lesson endeth. Fences  &amp;  Windows  01:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I expanded the article somewhat, and added several citations. (And sorry--the previous comment was from me.  I always forget to sign.)CagedFury (talk) 21:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep seems notable enough. Jeni  ( talk ) 00:20, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - It was quite easily to find this author on Amazon with less than a minutes effort. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 01:29, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * On a related AfD at Articles for deletion/Robison Wells this claim was also incorrectly made about books not being carried by Amazon.com. It was interesting to see that a quick look at Kerry Blair's own website will find links out to Amazon for people to purchase her books. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 02:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also Covenant Communications is a wholly own subsidiary of Deseret Book, a publisher with a 140+ year history. It once was a separate company, but was purchased by Deseret Book in 2006, and is currently still run as an independent entity (Deseret Book may or may not stock a Covenant title). -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 02:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Whitney Awards also seems to be related to this AfD. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 02:31, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Writer who has notability established. Books published by a press called "Covenant Communications" apparently owned by Deseret Book, and which is so notable that its books are even carried on Amazon.com. Claim to fame was that she won a "lifetime achievement award" from a group that gives them to Mormon authors and she has also been a member of the award committee and that was created by another author who's notability is also well established who also is published by "Covenant". –  j ak s mata  14:49, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - notability established. -- Storm  Rider  16:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * comment There seems to be some debate over whether or not sources such as Deseret News are sufficiently 3rd party to establish notablity for this and a number of other Mormon related articles. I've added the Rescue tag, hopefully if we get references from other sources it will render that debate irrelevant. Artw (talk) 21:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep That award is notable(see discussion over at that AFD). And winning a notable award, makes this author notable.   D r e a m Focus  01:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep As award-winning authror. That she is Morman and publishes through a LDS publishing house is not a valid reason to dismiss the notability she has for her millions of readers, whether of her faith or no. As for her publisher Covenant Communications, they are notable through enough independent significant coverage.. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 01:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.