Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Boehm (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 14:31, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Kevin Boehm
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Fails GNG lacks news coverage Kieem trra (talk) 10:30, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep Passes WP:GNG per news available in reliable sources such as . Jaysonsands (talk) 10:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G11, the article is irretrievably promotional. If the person is notable, somebody who is not likely a paid editor should write a new article.  Sandstein   12:22, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , I have improved the article and removed promo type content. I hope its ok now. Jaysonsands (talk) 12:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , it still reads like a promotional CV, consisting of little more than a list of awards. Such awards are typically self-awarded by the respective industry and therefore not much more than a promotional vehicle. If there's not more to the biography than a list of awards, I'm still in favor of deletion.  Sandstein   13:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , I have removed the awards given by magazine. Only remained those which are notable ones. Article seems ok now and by seeing WP:RS in multiple sources it passes WP:GNG. Jaysonsands (talk) 13:14, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Meets WP:GNG as per available sources and improvements done by Jaysonsands. DmitriRomanovJr (talk) 13:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete There's lots of sources, but we need sources to pass WP:GNG, and I believe only the USA Today/Des Moines Register article currently qualifies. All the rest have issues, either not being independent (Forbes) or not being significant coverage/just quoting him (NY Times, Chicago Tribune). Note however that I currently consider my vote a "strong" delete, it probably only needs one more good, in-depth article directly on him to be kept. I also share the promotional concerns, though they have been addressed to a point where G11 no longer clearly applies. SportingFlyer  T · C  16:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, does not meet WP:ANYBIO ie. no well-known and significant honor/award received, not made a widely recognised contribution in their field, nor WP:GNG, sources cited in the article are not significant, the USAToday/Des Moines article although ok as a source is not enough. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes criteria 1 of WP:ANYBIO. The James Beard Award is a widely recognized major award in the culinary industry. The James Beard Award is to the food industry what the Oscars is for the film industery. It's a big deal to win, and winning gets coverage in major media outlets. Further, there seems to be enough coverage here to pass WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 03:08, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  20:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. He passes in WP:ANYBIO, point 1. There are at least two reputable sources (USA Today and Des Moines) that do significant coverage. In addition, he is co-founded of an award-winning restaurant. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 02:22, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability is not inherited. fails WP:GNG. GermanKity (talk) 02:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:ANYBIO criteria as per receiving major award in the culinary industry. Grandruskiy48  • Talk∕Contribs 16:42, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: As this will likely close soon I don't have time to go too in-depth but promotional issues has been addressed. The subject is the front man for the company and when many Chicago restaurants closed (pandemic), that included the groups Bellemore, the company is now expanding. The restaurant Girl & The Goat with partner and Top Chef Stephanie Izard is slated to open in Los Angeles. Chef Lee Wolen (Jean Banchet Award, James Beard Foundation Award nomanee, and Michelin Star chef) is now a partner and opened GG’s Chicken Shop and is involved in the new (very high end) luxury health and social club (and riverfront restaurant) "BIÂN" with the subject as chairman. Along with being a repeat judge on a national cook show I see enough coverage to advance notability. --  Otr500 (talk) 13:00, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep (have struck out my "delete" above), revisiting this, having (jointly) won a james beard award and been nominated several times, boehm does meet anybio. Coolabahapple (talk) 22:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not advocating hard for deletion, but I did check back in on this and I'm uncomfortable with quoting ANYBIO when GNG hasn't quite been demonstrated. Would still like an additional source. SportingFlyer  T · C  23:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , in just quickly searching for a few additional sources I found several additions in under ten minutes. This article from Food and Wine magazine reviews a TED Talk he presented. This source verifies he was the commencement speaker at the The Culinary Institute of America. This newspaper article covers his James Beard Award win. In subscription access databases like ProQuest, my university library has several articles with significant coverage in : ; ; and . Best.4meter4 (talk) 02:11, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the source search, but none of those make me go, "oh, he's clearly notable!" for various reasons, but it's not really worth arguing over. SportingFlyer  T · C  11:10, 26 June 2021 (UTC)


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