Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin D. Kline


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The result was   delete. T. Canens (talk) 03:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Kevin D. Kline

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Poorly referenced (and possible WP:COI) bio of a person notable primarily as a municipal councillor in a town of less than 5,000 people; claims of notability as a musician are entirely unreferenced and purely promotional in tone. In the absence of properly sourced evidence that actually he meets either WP:POLITICIAN or WP:NMUSIC, delete. Bearcat (talk) 02:21, 2 June 2011 (UTC) Tara Lieden 22:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC) Thanks again for the help and please consider to KEEP this article...i did a lot of work on it! :) Tara Lieden 04:23, 6 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BABYGRAND007 (talk • contribs) Danny Geston 23:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by OVIETHEGREAT8 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete. Non-notable. Probably autobio or by close relative. &mdash; RHaworth 05:05, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTABLE, poorly referenced. Tyrol5   [Talk]  17:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: If, and only if, it can be sourced, he arguably passes criteria 4 of WP:MUSICBIO: "Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country." This is absed on claims he performed at major clubs in Nashville, Atlantic City, and New York City in winter 1999-2000.  It's unbearably difficult to search for such a common name, so I leave it to the creator (or others) to do the hard work. Bearian (talk) 19:40, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment It's not referenced well, but that can be fixed. His status as an elected official is referenced in the Maryland State Archives as well as a few others places...but i dont think I referenced it correctly in Wiki.  The municipality may be small, but it's historical significance is important considering it's the home of Air Force One and Andrews Air Force base and the work he is doing with Andrews, Prince Georges County and the State of Maryland to revitalize the entire area...is notable to our state and hopefully to the President, Vice President, congressmembers, senators and dignitaries that travel through the town on a daily basis.  The music was interesting to his background, but not necessarily what might make him interesting or notable by itself.  Please give me some more time to correct the mistakes of referencing correctly and clearer on the notability.  And NO, I am not a close relative, but have met him several times and I offered to write this article.  Sorry my skills are lacking on my first try.  But he is an elected official in the State of Maryland. Tara Lieden 21:26, 2 June 2011 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BABYGRAND007 (talk • contribs)
 * Question Can this article be pulled back into a Work In Progess to properly cite? Or can there be a recommendation to Hold? I may have launched it too quickly, but all the references regarding proper citing, both with the politics and the music can be referenced, I just failed to do so in the correct way. I am, admittedly  new to the Wikipedia process and obviously the preceding "comments" are quite informed of the correct way to cite the article.  Thanks !
 * KEEP But it needs some major fixin'....All the information in this article so far is verifiable..I tried to goggle a few of the "items in question" and there are several trusted articles/references available that verify the information.....it's just not properly cited, or cited at all for that matter. I logged onto Wiki to try and help correct these citations and hopefully can assist in keeping this article up. The first article concerning the elections is reference to St. Louis Newspaper, however the link is to The Washington Post article.  There are a lot of reference mistakes, but as far as the validity of the person, it meets the requirements of notability as an elected official with notable credits...just some of the important details and ALL of the citations are left out.  KEEP but let's fix this one. Danny Geston 23:17, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * KEEP and thanks for the advice on all the proper citing and references...I deleted the feel of the Bio and put just the facts..it makes for a much better article now anyway...so thanks for the help and guidance...as I said before...this was my very first article...so I needed the learning curve. I have cited a majority of the article and am waiting for a few more links to cite the rest. Yes it is difficult to find everything, but I am working on it !!
 * KEEP I took some time to re-write some of the info. It was too Biographical and now, along with all the proper citations, it is much more factual and interesting.  The Notable Venues still needs to be referenced.  I didn't have the time yet to research but am willing to in the very near future. Pretty good considering where it started from just a week ago!


 * Comment it appears as if one or two accounts have voted 'keep' numerous times above--please don't stuff the ballot box. As for the article, it's in need of major clean-up, for a multitude of images, unnecessary bold-face type, and promotional/resume tone. Can be cut way down, eliminating the chaff, which is to say, a largely non-notable history, particularly in politics--holding a number of civic positions in a town with a population under 3,000 may be praiseworthy, but it is not noteworthy. Just because it's sourced doesn't mean the information meets guidelines for inclusion. 99.156.70.138 (talk) 23:51, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep or deletion aside, BABYGRAND007's recent edits have vastly improved the article--I still question the need for listing various civic achievements, but at least this looks a lot more like an encyclopedic entry. 99.156.70.138 (talk) 02:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Tara Lieden 02:52, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank You Anonymous person...this is my first article and its tough when everyone throws a millions critics at you at once....I do appreciate the ACTUAL HELP in giving advice to correct the article. And I am continuing to cite and reference... I agree...it's short and sweet..and much better !! AND NO...I'm not related to the guy..just a fan ! :) :) Thanks again !


 * Good work--you're welcome. Nobody likes having their articles tagged, but the alternative was to 'strip-mine' it myself, which sometimes leads to edit warring. Just so you know, though I edit anonymously I've written many articles here and have a passable grasp of the landscape. Cheers, 99.156.70.138 (talk) 03:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Tara Lieden 03:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! Your help may have saved the article. :) :)
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