Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Nalty (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 19:36, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Kevin Nalty
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Like the Nigahiga deletion, this guy has no notability outside YouTube and therefore, does not meet the WP:BIO guidelines. &mdash; Ceran  ♦ ( talk) 21:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - Based on significant notability. Jason (talk) 03:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, Ceran, obviously you didn't read this article at all, and you are just a self-important jerkoff. This is wikipedia. It's not an ACTUAL encyclopedia. I mean, Fred has a page, for God Sake! I see no reason why Nalts shouldn't have a page. it should stay, end of story. --Paultheairplane (talk) 21:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sorry that you feel this way but I don't really think that he has baseline notability. &mdash; Ceran  ♦ ( talk) 02:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - there are several sources in reliable publications (such as this one which isn't in the article), most of them are pretty trivial but they probably do include enough descriptive information about the subject to support a verifiable stub. If it's deemed there is not enough coverage to establish notability for an individual article a merge somewhere might be appropriate. The subject seems to be discussed in terms of general "new media" and new advertising techniques rather than specifically because they use YouTube. Guest9999 (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Neutral Merge & Redirect - I only found one other independent source mentioning Nalty, but the sources on that page appear to check out. However, all the independent sources say very little about Nalty other than mere mentions; most of it is taken from primary sources written by Nalty himself. --Macrowiz (talk) 01:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: Mgm|(talk)'s suggestion about merging to List of YouTube celebrities would be consistent with what is usually done with content such as this until there is enough info or reliable sources to make him notable. --Macrowiz (talk) 14:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Please note that the previous AFD listed appears to have been improperly formatted and not a proper AFD at all. 23skidoo (talk) 07:09, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. The links in the references and external links section at the bottom of the article alone show he's been extensively interviewed in both online and regular media sources (which means he's received coverage by multiple reliable independendent sources per WP:N).
 * If for some reason this is not kept, I support a merge or redirect to List of YouTube celebrities. - Mgm|(talk) 09:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The links at the bottom are all trivial or non-reliable third party sources (youtube, self published, blogs, etc.) The Adweek reference mentions him in one sentence in passing (trivial mention) the Wall Street Journal article has a passing mention in an article about searching on youtube in general (very trivial) and the LA Times article also mentions him in passing in an article about product placement (trivial).  No indication of notability, either through the general notability guidelines, or by WP:ENTERTAINER.  Theseeker4 (talk) 15:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Some, but not all, the references go beyond the scope of "passing mention." --Oakshade (talk) 06:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Based on significant notability. Can be merged after AfD if consensus is reached. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - The references do indicate passing WP:BIO. Some people might not like the fact people can be notable because of youtube, but that has nothing to do with Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines.  --Oakshade (talk) 06:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Nalts is not only one of the most Stable and Popular Partners on YouTube he has a very active blog that receives thousands of hits each day. He has been a guest on ABC, FOX, CBS, NBC; both national and local. His opinion is sought from many Important and Popular Newspapers and Blogs. He has created commercials for Mentos, Readers Digest and other well known US products, all of this revolves around his background in the Marketing Industry and his extreme popularity on You Tube. Further, the wiki guidelines use the word notability: a person or celebrity who is an inspiration to others. Kevin Nalty fills that description; see all the videos of thanks for his inspiration and collaboration he has been asked to participated by many well known internet, political and MSM personalities. Nalts has had an important hand in helping sharp the past and present popularity of You Tube, Revver and the Marketing Industry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jischinger (talk • contribs) 18:54, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


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