Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin R. Duncan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. This is the same case as Articles for deletion/Kevin W. Pearson.  Sandstein  09:16, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Kevin R. Duncan

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A non-notable subject does not meet WP:BASIC. Significant coverage in independent, reliable sources does not appear to exist. WP:BEFORE searches only provide quotations from the subject regarding religion and acting as a spokesperson (which are primary in nature), fleeting passing mentions and name checks. Furthermore, primary sources present in the article and found in searches are not usable to qualify notability. North America1000 19:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Utah-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor 20:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dom from Paris (talk) 15:43, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep -- General authorities in LDS are like bishops in the Catholic Church. Wikiproject religion considers bishops in the Catholic Church and analogous churches to be notable per WP:BISHOPS.  Note that LDS bishops are not automatically notable per this guideline, but LDS general authorities are not bishops, as stated. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 17:15, 31 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment – WP:BISHOPS is an opinion essay ; it is not a guideline or policy at all. There is no presumed notability for religious subjects on English Wikipedia whatsoever. North America1000 18:05, 31 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per the arguments above. If North America truly disagreed with the bishop's view, he would take on the only sourced to a bare-bones date listing blog articles on bishops, instead of sourced to full bio articles written by third parties articles as we have on these general authorities.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:33, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment – Regarding the above !vote:
 * It does not provide a valid rationale for article retention.
 * Its thesis is utterly unclear; this article and deletion nomination is about Kevin R. Duncan, not some other subject.
 * Primary sources are just not usable to establish notability.
 * There is no presumed notability for religious subjects on English Wikipedia.
 * – I sure hope this isn't closed based upon a simple !vote count. Thus far, not even one source has been presented herein to back up assertions of notability, which at this point, are all based upon personal opinion, rather than guidelines. North America1000 01:30, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as failing the basic notability criteria. Agree with NA1000 about the essay and on top of that this is a random use of it because it does not mention the general authorities and as such is a Synth by the IP user. They say they are like bishops (according to whom?) so should be seen as notable but as this is an essay that deosn't mention them I can't see how it can be used. --Dom from Paris (talk) 19:38, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Like NorthAmerica said, I hope admin will look thorough into the keep votes instead of closing this as a pure no consensus AfD. Firstly, like it was already said, WP:BISHOPS is not a guideline, therefore the keep votes are not using the things right here. This subject fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG, no coverage is present in the article or in BEFORE search. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 00:54, 10 November 2018 (UTC)


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