Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Ryan (Luthier)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;   &spades;  06:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Kevin Ryan (Luthier)

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Non-notable bio, spam. The article was PRODded and PROD2ed, but the creator removed the prods, so here we are. Corvus cornix 21:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, Article seems like a big advertisement. Definitely violates WP:SPAM. -- Random Say it here! 21:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per my original prod and per nom. Bjelleklang -  talk  Bug Me  21:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ~EdBoy[c] 22:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. What about the multiple, apparently reliable third-party sources cited at the bottom? Stammer 06:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Two of those supposed third-party sources are hosted on ryanguitars.com. The third is a site where users can talk about what they like or dislike about guitars.  Not a reliable source.  And definitely not support for the biographical information.  Corvus cornix 17:27, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Here are the online references from the magazines' sites, and . I am not sure this establishes notability, but I do not share the previous participants' approach to  sources evaluation. Stammer 18:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC). Muriel Anderson says "I have two main guitars, my Paul McGill classic, and my Kevin Ryan steel string". For me that points to notability. Stammer 18:35, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Neither of those links goes to anything about this person. And "I use a Kevin Ryan steel string" does not source his bio.  Corvus cornix 19:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not following you. There is hardly any biographical information in the article. The guy is notable (assuming that the references establish his notability) as a luthier and the article is about his activity as a luthier. That is covered in the references. Are you implying that the articles that are hosted at his site are different from those that have actually been published in the magazines? Stammer 21:45, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What are the reliable sources for any of the information in the article? Corvus cornix 18:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


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