Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Sweeney (consultant)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Moved back to Draft. Black Kite (talk) 00:12, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Kevin Sweeney (consultant)

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This page is a mess and reads like an advertisement or personal website for this guy. It's been PRODed and G11d and had the tags removed both times. It's possible this guy is notable, but I think we've well passed the WP:TNT point for this particular rendition of the page. Nathan2055talk - contribs 23:40, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:06, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:06, 22 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep The article has been improved to include additional reliable sources and the text has been modified to eliminate promotional tone. I came upon this page today, and I have made several edits in the attempt of making the article less like a personal website or LinkedIn profile, and more like a subjective page on a notable person. The subject is set to be portrayed in The Front Runner, about Gary Hart's presidential run in 1988, in which the subject served as Hart's press secretary. I'm not saying that being portrayed in a film makes a person more notable, but the page for the movie alerted me to him in the first place, which says something. As you can see from the edit history on the page, I have been making copyedits and attempting to source the content. KidAd (talk) 00:56, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I tagged this last for speedy. This is horrible and needs to be removed from mainspace. I don't care if it is deleted or moved to draft to be worked over, but this needs to be done over from scratch. Horrible industrial waste in our beautiful project. Jytdog (talk) 01:18, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Refs are a jumble of broken links and primary sources. Send back to draft at least. Not ready for main space. Concerns regarding promotional tone. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 16:06, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Draftify Carefully looking at everything he maybe notable so i think it should be moved to draft and improved upon PlotHelpful (talk) 18:14, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:HEYMANN Keep (see new iVote below). his book was widely reviewed (I added a few of the reviews). I also added profiles of him that ran in the Washington Post and People Magazine after the Hart campaign folded. Someone else has added a profile formteh Los Angeles Times. I have beefed up article a little; It needs a lot more work. Most of the coverage is the last century (eg. Gary Hart).  I used a proquest news archive.  Lots more out there that can be added. search bar is useless, but gBooks searches on  his name with keywords brings up a lot of useful stuff from which article can be improved.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:45, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note that swaths of PROMO have been removed from the page by multiple editors.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Draftify until all promotional content has been removed - then protect. Deb (talk) 18:04, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * If you are seeing PROMO, please take it out. Article was started in 2005 by  who may or may not wish to weigh in. However, desirable as it is to have Good articles, perfection is not required to establish notability.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:31, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Luckily, the nomination isn't primarily on the grounds of notability. Deb (talk) 22:49, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Oddly, except fo rtotal lack on inline sourcing, the 2005 version was better written.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:55, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Draftify until all promotional content has been removed - then protect. changing my mind. Frankly, I do so many AfDs on consultants and authors that I tend to search for notability first, and only look at article history later.  Sweeney is certainly notable. But, now that I have looked at page's recent history, I see what appear to be multiple accounts coming to add blatant PROMO to the page, and replacing it when deleted.  settling on a PROMO-free version and page protecting makes sense.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:40, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Seems like an interesting fellow, but not a Notable one. Comes off as self-promotional. -- LeflymanTalk 23:35, 28 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.