Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khair Jones


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The result was Delete sources indicate that Malayan Premier League is not a fully professional league (Malayan Super League is).--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 12:50, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Khair Jones

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:58, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:22, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Prior to joining Melaka United, yes, he was playing in the semi-professional ASB Premiership League (New Zealand's first-tier football league) and an article of him (created back then) would have not met wiki criteria. However, he is currently playing in the Malaysian Premier League which is a fully professional football league. He is a registered player under Football Malaysia LLP (the organization which runs the Malaysian Premier League) for Melaka United Premier League squad, and have thus far (as of 21 April 2016) played in 6 league matches for Melaka United. --Shadoa (talk) 02:12, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The claim that the Malaysian Premier League is fully pro is not supported by reliable sources. (See WP:FPL). Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:39, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Information in WP:FPL about the professional status of Malaysian leagues require an update. There are many reliable sources which would substantiate the professional status of the Malaysian Premier League. Just need (a) wiki editor(s) to link them in the said article. --Shadoa (talk) 03:15, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Here is one reference: see Football_Malaysia_LLP for citations to reliable sources. --Shadoa (talk) 04:53, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete the Premier League is semi-pro and 2nd tier - fails WP:Football NealeFamily (talk) 23:29, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Based on the Wikipedia association football notability guidelines for players, the tier which a player plays in is not a requirement for notability. A bit of history: the Malaysian league (M-League) transitioned from semi-pro to professional status in 1994 (See Malaysian_League, Malaysian_Semi-Pro_Football_League, Football_in_Malaysia), albeit experiencing change in format along the way. The current league format has been established since 2007 (See Malaysian_football_league_system, Malaysia_Premier_League, Malaysia_Super_League). --Shadoa (talk) 09:13, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete As the Malaysian Premier League doesn't appear to be fully professional, so fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:34, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete - hasn't played in a fully pro league Spiderone  10:54, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete for now as still questionable for solid independent notability. SwisterTwister   talk  23:04, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
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