Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khalga and Kaban


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to List of Khazar rulers. Daniel (talk) 22:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Khalga and Kaban

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This article has lacked sources for 14 years now. This shows a strong possibility of a lack of interest and/or notability on the part of the subject. The article should be deleted until such time that an editor cares enough to find reliable secondary sources, if they exist. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, History,  and Royalty and nobility. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Not attested to in sources other than the one listed, tells us there are no other sources. I can't find any in my search as well. Oaktree b (talk) 20:42, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok there's this: a one liner in a chart. Long way from extensive coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 20:44, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Good job finding that chart, though. Thanks for contributing.🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Khazar rulers: where they are detailed with more context. As I stated in this WP:RSN discussion from last year, the Cäğfär Taríxı is a fabrication created by the NKVD to sow division amongst the Tatars during a period of increased nationalism for that group. Curbon7 (talk) 21:47, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Curbon7 That is not a bad solution, but it also seems unnecessary since there are only five articles that link to it, including List of Khazar rulers. They are List of Khazar rulers, Cäğfär Taríxı, Khalga (a redirect), Kaban (a disambiguation page), and List of state leaders in the 7th century. I think it would be cleaner to just delete it entirely. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 23:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirects are cheap and alternatives to deletion should always be prioritized if one is clearly available. Curbon7 (talk) 23:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Central Asia-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:41, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect as above. In the text they seem to be between dozens of names like that, so I also doubt notability for each one and I question their pairing for this article. Suitskvarts (talk) 11:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Curbon7. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.