Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khalil Al Qaheri


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The result was delete. Basing this on the refutation of the sources and giving preference to established voters Spartaz Humbug! 18:15, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Khalil Al Qaheri

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so basically an entrepreneur and founder of some non-notable entities but fails to meet basic GNG. I could not locate even trivial coverage from independent reliable sources. most of the cited sources are in Arabic and appears not solid sources. Saqib (talk) 08:13, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Nat965 (talk) 08:18, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bahrain-related deletion discussions. Nat965 (talk) 08:18, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I just listed a part of sources to checking out.Elina (talk) 12:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Elina is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD.
 * Keep as I know its not necessary for references to be in English and sources can be on each language but they should be reliable, like this article Abdullah Al-Salloum and too many other articles, although reliable english sources has supported most of content of article, too. its so strange that you said that the sources not solid sources becuase if you check the following sources out, you will found they are considered as the most reliable sources in Bahrain and Arab world. the subject is ceo, founder or co-founder of 3 companies which one of them is first company in Bahrain in its area of activities(there are 2 sources in english and several sources in Arabic to prove this). also content has supported by its Arabic equivalent on ar.wiki.
 * http://www.newsofbahrain.com/viewNews.php?ppId=42283&TYPE=Posts&pid=21&MNU=2&SUB=
 * http://startupbahrain.com/newsfeatures/first-batch-bahraini-entrepreneurs-graduate-entrepreneurship-camp/
 * http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/617766
 * http://www.moic.gov.bh/En/Main/News/Pages/Dr.-Hassan-Fakhro-received-TREXOL-Founder-and-Manager-Director-Mr.-Khalil-Al-Qaheri.aspx
 * http://www.newsofbahrain.com/viewNews.php?ppId=42135&TYPE=Posts&pid=21&MNU=2&SUB=3
 * http://www.alayam.com/alayam/economic/667258/News.html
 * http://www.albiladpress.com/columnists/khalil%20qaheri
 * http://www.alwasatnews.com/news/875397.html
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 * I'm afraid some of the provided references are not independent RS and literary none of the several reference discusses the subject directly and in-detail thus fails GNG. --Saqib (talk) 13:26, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * sources directly are talking about subject of article and the companies which he is founder or ceo of them. i believe that you can′t find more relible website in Bahrain than this website http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/617766 in Bahrain. as I checked other Arab businessman′s articles, usually they use several sources in Arabic and they are founder or ceo of a company. aslo I provided reliable sources in english and Arabic. many news have been published about him in Arabic in reliable News websites, due to the company which he has founded, is the first company in Bahrain in its career. most of sources are talking about him directly and couple of them are talking about the companies which he is serving in them. the title of some of news are his name, you can reed and get they are talking about subject of article directly. these can prove his notability as well as other businessmans or entrepreneur. also I founded several others sources that I think we dont need to add them because current sources are enough. my native language is Arabic and Ive checked Arabic sources and Arabic article which has published on Arabic wikipedia about this person. this article meet GNG as a businessman or entrepreneur. regards.Elina  (talk) 18:36, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * And where are those sources which discusses the subject directly and in-detail? I'm afraid one cannot establish the notability by merely saying that subject meets GNG. --Saqib (talk) 06:33, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * when you ask a question on wikipedia, if you are not writing on his talk page, you should ping him by using Template:Reply to, by this way he will recieve your message and will reply you. due to you didnt ping me I didnt recieve your message,although this page is on my watchlist, i dont check my watchlist everyday, also you havnt ping following person who has voted about article. AS I know as a Arab person, the Arabic links which I listed for you, has published on the most reiable and famous News paper in Arab world and they dont publish fake News. the sources which has used on Arabic Wikipedia for same person are several of sources which i listed you and Arrabic wikipedia didnt say that the News are not talking directly even their native language is Arabic, so how you fuss the Arabic sources and telling their not reliable?! if they are not reliable so why Arabic wikipedia has accepted article which are very intransigent against biography of Arab people?! as me and you know the sources should not be only in english they can be on each language. im telling you for third times this link http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/617766 is published on the most reliable news agancy in Bahrain which always publish important news, and is directily talking about the subject and companies. about following person, i searched Ebdaa Hub on google and I saw several News about it which is talking that this company is the first company in Bahrain on its career. if you cant see, change your browser or device which you are searching by it.Elina (talk) 17:46, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You seems to misunderstanding my point. I repeat, the subject has not received significant coverage but merely some mentions which is namechecking and not enough to establish the WP:N. --Saqib (talk) 04:46, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * you have told me the sources are not talking about subject directly and i replied that to you. also you have asked about Ebdaa Hub from following person and didnt ping him to reply you so I replied you. about this new point which you wrote recently, please explaine mor which is the problem exactly? sources or cotext? yo improve it.Elina (talk) 07:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Well i think you dont seems to understand my points so I'm done. Let's leave it upto the closing admin to decide. --Saqib (talk) 07:36, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * KEEP “Ebdaa Hub” is a notable company in Bahrain which was found by Khalil Al Qahri. also manager and  member of Board of seveal Bahraini companies. refs are valid, thereupon article claims to notability.آریانا فغان (talk) 14:39, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * How's Ebdaa Hub a notable company. Google search does not produce any coverage about the organisation in independent RS. Anyways, we're not talking about company but the personality. --Saqib (talk) 14:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * since you havnt ping this person so he wont reply you. so I gonna reply you. if you search Ebdaa Hub on google you will find several news about that about being first company in Bahrain in its career. as I found and as this person found.Elina  (talk) 07:05, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If there are specific references you believe meet the criteria for establishing notability, please post them. The onos in on you to establish the WP:N. --Saqib (talk) 07:19, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * these sources are About Ebdaa Hub *http://www.newsofbahrain.com/viewNews.php?ppId=42283 *http://startupbahrain.com/newsfeatures/first-batch-bahraini-entrepreneurs-graduate-entrepreneurship-camp/ http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/835354 *http://www.gdnonline.com/Details/346401/Business-Clinic-to-back-1,000-Bahraini-SMEs *http://www.alayam.com/alayam/economic/721261/News.html *http://alwatannews.net/article/760824/Business/%D8%AA%D8%AF%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A8-27-%D8%B5%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%A8-%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84-%D8%A8%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%AA%D8%A3%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%B3-%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84 *https://www.zawya.com/mena/ar/story/%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A9_%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%85_%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%B3_%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B9%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%84_%D9%88%D8%A5%D9%86%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B2_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A9_%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B3%D8%B7%D8%A9_-ZAWYA20171019072741/ *http://www.albiladpress.com/news/2018/3464/finance/490377.html these websites are used on Arabic wikipedia as reliable sources that you said most of the cited sources are in Arabic and appears not solid sources.these are only about Ebdaa Hub . other sources are exist which are about other companies that subject is Ceo of them.Elina (talk) 09:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The standard set for sources to support claims within an article is a lower standard than that for sources to establish WP:N. And I don't think the cited and provided sources meet the criteria for establishing notability. --Saqib (talk) 15:01, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete none of the sources seem significantly about him, only mention him or repeat what he says. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:09, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:30, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep found some reliable references       on google. number of  valid sources and mentions in the press on the article lead me to believe that the subject meet notability requirements. this biography also was published in Persian Wikipedia  as a notable Bahrain businessman and Arabic Wikipedia that was written in more details about subject(its main language of subject). in number of  Arabic presses only was written what he said, because of as we read in the article :  Al Qaheri is better known for his Entrepreneurship publications on the principles of Bahrain′s mass medias. these sources are his Entrepreneurship  articles on Arabic press. Kamran Ali El-Batli (talk) 18:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * We have discussed it above that the provided references does not establish the WP:N. I can see the bio exists on Arabic and Persian WP's but the WP:N standards and requirement are slightly different there so having said that, we cannot guarantee a bio on English WP on the basis that the bio exists on other WPs. --Saqib (talk) 05:09, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * it was just my idea about this article, it can be correct or Fals.Kamran Ali El-Batli (talk) 09:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Note Sockpuppet investigations/Arionofaghan
 * Delete article subject himself has not accrued enough coverage to meet WP:SIGCOV, and it should be noted that they do not inherit notability from their companies.--SamHolt6 (talk) 16:30, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sources above. Oops I did it again (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Another comment by an editor who has made (as of this moment ) few other edits outside of AfD. This is relevant given the various suspected sock accounts active at this AfD.--SamHolt6 (talk) 23:04, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


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