Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khalil Jones


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The result was   delete. WP:ATH is the relevant criteria here, if this is met later, the article can be brought back. Tone 13:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Khalil Jones

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Fails WP:GNG because after a good faith search all I could find are trivial mentions and a few feature stories but all by Scout.com's team sections which will cover really anything about their school. Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 15:05, 24 July 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  -- the wub  "?!"  17:57, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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 * Comment: A search of the Newsbank database turns up extensive hits (>100) in articles about Miami Hurricanes football from 2004-2008 and also some articles referring to his signing with and waiver by the Atlanta Falcons in 2009.  I don't have access to The Miami Herald archives, but the following two articles (based on the first paragraph of each) appear to focus on Jones: (1) "Can't catch on yet," Miami Herald, 9/15/08, (2) "Receiver Heading TO UM," Miami Herald, 2/2/04 (feature on Jones signing with UM).  There are also several articles about Jones being knocked unconscious and hospitalized after a brawl following the 2005 Peach Bowl, e.g., "Miami player leaves hospital after fight Joke gone wrong sparks Peach Bowl brawl," Atlanta Journal-Constitution, January 1, 2006; "Postgame scuffle mars win," American Press (Lake Charles, LA), December 31, 2005. Before casting my vote to keep or delete, I'd like to do some more checking, and hear what others find.  Cbl62 (talk) 08:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Google News search turns up around 200+ references. Some trivial, some specifically about the subject.  WP:ATHLETE is a guideline and not policy, and is inclusionary not exclusionary.  Subject matter meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO quite handily, regardless of not having actually played a down of professional football.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:43, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. Career at Miami: 13 receptions for 135 yards. Senior year at Miami: 5 receptions for 39 yards - in the last nine games he had a total of 2 receptions for 18 yards against bottom-dwellers NC State. He does not meet notability guidelines at WP:BIO (of which WP:ATHLETE is a part of) or WP:GNG (i.e multiple websites listing barely more than what I've listed above does not constitute "significant coverage"). Location (talk) 04:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails both WP:ATHLETE (as he hasn't "competed at the fully professional level of a sport") and WP:GNG (as he hasn't "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"). GiantSnowman 13:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Question Did you search google news? What about those references are not adequate?--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I searched Google News and found little more than brief notes regarding injury reports and roster changes, mostly from the Miami Hurricanes website and a few local papers. The most interesting thing I can find is that he got knocked out in a brawl after the 2005 Peach Bowl, which at best would warrant a redirect. Did you have something more substantial? Location (talk) 22:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per article noting he's a football player who was not drafted. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Subject matter meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO crit. - Ret.Prof (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep He meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO--Zta ♠talk♠ August 8 2009 ♠ Nastia  ♥


 * Keep Google News search turns up around 200+ references. WP:ATHLETE is a guideline and not policy, and is inclusionary not exclusionary. This article matter meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO regardless of not having actually played a down of professional football--Zta ♠talk♠ August 8 2009 ♠ Nastia ♠
 * Please only vote once. And that's common knowledge that WP:ATH is a guideline, thus it wasn't mentioned. Google news hits also do not show notability, "significant coverage" does, i.e. articles fully about the subject not just passing mentions.-- Giants27 ( c  |  s ) 22:13, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Non-notable college player who had a brief camp stint with an NFL club and may never be heard from again. As it stands, he's not notable.► Chris Nelson Holla! 22:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - Fails WP:ATH as he never played a game at the professional level. If reliable sources over a span of time (see WP:NTEMP) can be provided, article should be kept.  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 09:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
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