Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khamoshiyan (song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jujutacular (talk) 01:36, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Khamoshiyan (song)

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Song fails WP:NSONGS for no multiple, non-trivial, independent sources. One claim is of "Mirchi Top 20" #6 position. But there is no clarity on how these charts are prepared on their website. Also, TOI publishing this top 20 list shouldn't be considered as secondary source as TOI and Radio Mirchi are part of same Times Group. Other reviews from BH, Koimoi, Rediff even if seem notable on first glance, fail NSONGS as "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability"; which is what is happening here. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:51, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:53, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:53, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:33, 21 September 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 07:16, 28 September 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Reverted no consensus NAC, because the argument for deletion appears to be rather well founded. Courcelles (talk) 23:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 23:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge to Khamoshiyan: While there are some good sources and around 15 million hits on YouTube, everything can be covered in the main article. Esquivalience t 00:08, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Some sources about the song? Where are they? And just the way our page hits don't count, YouTube's hits shouldn't count either; especially with click fraud. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:54, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - Dharmadhyaksha makes compelling arguments regarding the one claim to fame, the charting. Do not believe that passes the criteria for WP:NSONG.  Onel 5969  TT me</i> 13:33, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Question: Not being very knowledgeable about the Indian music scene, can someone tell me whether the Radio Mirchi list qualifies under WP:CHART? I don't see any Indian charts listed on that page, and when I search Indian music charts on Google the Radio Mirchi list is one of the first results. If the chart is calculated, say, mathematically, then I think this song probably qualifies under WP:NSONG, and there shouldn't be any independence concerns. mikeman67 (talk) 14:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Radio Mirchi's website doesn't state anything about how their charts are prepared. With no clarity or transparency we can not consider it to be notable enough to match WP:CHART. Although if this can be established then we can reconsider. But recently on one occasion at the AFD of "Ainvayi Ainvayi" I discovered that Radio mirchi was media partner of the film and had launched various promotional schemes, mainly one scheme where your marriage would be sponsored by the group. The article then also claimed that the song from this film was in top 20 for 38 weeks!! Well, that's promotional much. I haven't hunted down who the media partners of this film are. One would have to see various promo videos on youtube or the film itself to see credit list. So its going to be tough to prove notability of this particular chart. §§<i style="color:#E0115F;">Dharmadhyaksha</i>§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:13, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - Through the merger could be an alternative option but since there is COI in sources as nominator have stated above a deletion seems to be a better option as compared to the merger. —  San ska ri  Hangout 19:05, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


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