Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kharen Hill


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus is that this does not meet the notability guidelines for inclusion. The lack of reliable, independent sources means that there is no verification of her notability.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 08:01, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Kharen Hill

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The General Notability Guideline has not been met by the subject of this article, a photographer whose name does not appear in any reliable sources that could be located during a WP:BEFORE search.

References check I have checked the references contained within the article itself:
 * 1)  No mention of the subject of this article
 * 2)  Single mention - award from an industry body
 * 3)  Identical to first reference
 * 4)  personal website

In summary, the WP:GNG has definitely not been met. I have no doubt that the person exists but Wikipedia needs a lot more than that. Exemplo347 (talk) 20:01, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

I have followed this photographers work and wanted to hep with the page as a writer new to wikipedia. Kharen is one of the top photographers doing entertainment advertising and recognised as the top photographer in canada for her field and recognised for her work over many years with Canadian singer Sarah Mclachlan. Most of this type of photography work she is hired for is not publically credited to the photographer as they are highly paid (unlike editorial work in magazines) but i am a writer new to wikipedia and am now working on adding her credits to the pages in wikipedia where she did the photography on the projects she has worked on and am adding more references. most of Kharens work in film and TVis listed in IMDB and comes up in a google search where she is credited by the companies she works for that give credit for the photography. As i have the time i will continue to add Kharens information that i find.RhyH (talk) 03:37, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately IMDB is not a reliable source. Please read WP:RS Exemplo347 (talk) 09:36, 14 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete I originally tagged this article for notability, but it doesn't appear to have improved much. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

The most important thing for you to bear in mind is the concept of Inherited Notability - a person is not notable because of the people they work with, the projects they work on or the companies they have worked for. Wikipedia requires significant coverage in reliable, independent sources, not simply a list of projects. Exemplo347 (talk) 08:43, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * don't delete Sruart - Kharens work is at a world class level and She is one of five women who work in the USA in Entertainment advertising which is a highly competetive field. She is arguabley the top photographer in this field in Canada and the first women to do so there...and possibly the only New Zealander working in the USA doing this type of highly paid competitive photography. Working with the show publicists in Canada and the US to design the national advertising campaigns and photographing the imagery for national Broadcaster CBC's top shows for years in a row . Corner Gas and Republic pf Doyle. She has had almost 20 years of o-1 US immiagration status (alien of exceptional abilty ) in the USA. I have had to take a break from building this page but know there will be the evidence to show she is notable. What is missing? I will keep working on this this week as i have time to start on the article references and noting her editorial published works.RhyH (talk) 03:07, 15 March 2017 (UTC)User:RhyH
 * Delete per nom. Doesn't meet WP:ARTIST as sources are mostly self published. David. moreno 72    03:22, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

I am contiueing to upgrade this article. RhyH (talk) 22:16, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * don't Delete'" I have noted some published links to her photography for two magazines who use her regularily for cover stories and added her associations and work as a noted photographer with Students across Canada. Also her work with the national organisation for photography in Canada where she devleoped the business practices for All canadian photographers. Please note that many years of her work and articles were published before there was internet so many publications and references are not online. Regarding "inherited notability. In Kharens case this does not apply as you do not photograph or get the opportunity at this level to unless you are notable enough and your work is of the highest calibre and reputation. No one hires for this type of photography because of who they photograph alone  These clients (magazines and major film and television studios and nusicians) only hire from a small group of the top photographers in the world with that preceding reputation because there is no margin for error. Either budget or image wise. Kharens work stands for itself so I would hope that any one reviewing this page also has experience in reviewing photography as hers is stand alone and unique. Kharens images are all over the internet and the world and she is credited in many cases as witnessed by a google search..


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