Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kholvad House


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The result was keep. SoWhy 18:24, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Kholvad House

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 * Try also and add "South Africa" to limit the results. --Doncram (talk) 18:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Try also and add "South Africa" to limit the results. --Doncram (talk) 18:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

A single mention in a book is not enough for WP:GNG. 2Joules (talk) 11:53, 18 June 2018 (UTC) Striking confirmed, blocked sockpuppet nominator Atlantic306 (talk) 16:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)


 * There may be just one source included in the article, but did you try searching at all? wp:BEFORE appears not to have been met. --Doncram (talk) 21:31, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Seems to be a former madrassa, in flat 13 that was the notability rationale. I don't think there is enough there to justify an article. scope_creep (talk) 14:20, 18 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Seems like it is a historic landmark, even suggested as a point of interest to visit, if it is not yet a museum, and there is info about it available, per this source.  I don't know much about any historic register for South Africa, but if one existed this would arguably be on it.  There are other hits too.  There is a documentary titled "Flat 13" about it here.  Perhaps it should be moved to "Flat 13, Kolvad House" or otherwise renamed, but that is for editing/discussion at Talk, not AFD.  Obviously one combo article can cover "Flat 13" and the rest of the building.  Flat 13 is currently a redlink.  Seems like an important historic site for a country that (i think) doesn't have much coverage of its historic sites in Wikipedia. --Doncram (talk) 18:45, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

One of the hits is the Facebook page for Kholvad House South Africa. Just because there is little information in English does not mean that the article should be deleted. It might have more information in other languages that we are not seeing in English search. https://www.facebook.com/kholvadhousesa/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by CryMeAnOcean (talk • contribs) 22:58, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree with Doncram. CryMeAnOcean (talk) 19:56, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:21, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:21, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:21, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 03:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:57, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per just the English coverage found by Doncram. As a South African entry there would probably be reasonable coverage elsewhere. I'm concerned that 2Joules seemed to either miss out a BEFORE check, or do a minimal one. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:21, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as per the coverage identified by Doncram, passes WP:GNG, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 16:33, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TNT. Likely notable, but would need rewrite from scratch, as the confusing and essay-like content is worse than no article.  Sandstein   19:11, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Draftify pending improvement. While potentially notable it's an unencyclopedic mess that doesn't belong in the mainspace in its current condition. Alternatively delete per TNT. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:54, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep I just made some changes to improve the article and demonstrate notability. There's additional unused background in the source I added, and there are other sources that can provide additional info. [], [],  [][] are a few. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  18:10, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


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