Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khunying Thongtip Ratanarat


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Graham 87 05:25, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Khunying Thongtip Ratanarat

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Not notable. Her actual notability is apparently of the basis of who she is married to.  DGG ( talk ) 17:30, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete unless better improvement can be made. Pinging who may want to comment.  SwisterTwister   talk  18:15, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Absolutely keep: "From 1985 to 2005 she was Executive Director of the Petroleum Institute of Thailand" and the non-inheritable noble title Khunying demonstrates the unusually high position of Thongtip Ratanarat in Thai society. Generally, we should keep the objectives of Wikipedia_Asian_Month in mind, when we assess the notability of Asian female company directors. The Petroleum Institute of Thailand is clearly a world-class neutral, independent, non-profit organization and therefore the notability of its co-founder and former female director should not be disputed. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 03:01, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * No action until and unless a decision is taken by the jury of WAM. So deletion tag for an article being submitted in a contest is unwarranted. Besides, organizer(s) of WAM holds the page with marking of "N" then user proposing deletion may re-tag the deletion temp. Nannadeem (talk) 04:27, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Thai name is ทองทิพย์ รัตนรัตน์. The sources provided in the article are only listings and an autobiography. She may well be a respected academic in her circles but searches for sources in English and Thai reveal only a faculty CV and the usual raft of sn sites. Notability is not asserted.  WAM is an ad hoc editathon and its jury has absolutely no juristiction here -the article does not even comply with the WAM's own rules. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:43, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It's actually ทองทิพย์ รัตนะรัต. See my comments below. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:23, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep her also as judge of the Platts Global Energy Awards and main author of the Population policy background paper.... --NearEMPTiness (talk) 03:50, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've struck the extra boldface "keep" !vote. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:23, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Subject has been covered in-depth in a ten-page interview in the Kasetsart Engineering Journal, and a biographical article in the Investment Promotion Journal, thus satisfying the GNG. Also has received an honorary PhD from Kasetsart University for her work. The original AfD rationale, of notability based on marriage, is faulty. Plenty of news articles quote or mention her in her roles as a petrochemical expert, especially during the 2013 Rayong oil spill. While these don't directly establish notability, they provide indirect evidence of her authority in the field. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:23, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: I've renamed the article to Thongtip Ratanarat. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:40, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article has improved a lot and now her own notability is shown and not just derived from her husband. There are portraits about her as an example of a successful Thai female manager and – as User:Paul 012 has said – she has been quoted by news agencies as a petrochemical expert. Btw: the "Population policy background paper" of which she is the main author, is cited in the Historical Dictionary of Thailand (2nd ed.). Perhaps User:Kudpung wants to rethink his "vote" since the article has changed? --RJFF (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. It now looks like a pass of WP:GNG on her own merits rather than an attempt at inherited notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:30, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


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