Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khwaja Sheikh Pak


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:19, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Khwaja Sheikh Pak

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A contested prod. This article is entirely unreferenced, I could find no significant coverage from reliable secondary sources. This article could also quite possibly be a hoax. Rotten regard 19:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC) 
 * The subject may or may not be notable, but I see no reason to allege possible hoaxing. Please assume good faith, as I reminded you when I removed the latest WP:PROD tag. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:24, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I allege hoax because I can find nothing to verify this person's existence. Please don't patronize me Phil, AGF only goes so far. Rotten regard 20:41, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cheers, Ri l ey    00:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. No evidence to support claims of notability. 1292simon (talk) 02:29, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:53, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:53, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:53, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran  ( t  •  c ) 05:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Comment Having spent a few minutes on a Google search in English using the various names by which the subject is described in the article I have concluded that this route is unlikely to be successful because of the problems inherent in transliteration and translation. But the terms in which this person is described are consistent with the pattern of other Sufi teachers and I think it is unlikely that this article is a hoax. I agree with Phil Bridger that is important that we assume good faith in respect of such articles and are respectful of the considerable sensitivities here. The article ideally needs the assistance of an experienced editor with the necessary language skills and preferably familiar with this strand of Sufism; clearly it does not currently meet WP standards. The claims of notability are in the article but not verified, but nor is anything else. --AJHingston (talk) 10:55, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 02:32, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - I agree with AJHingston, the only way this article would be improved is if a user experienced with the history of Pakistani Sufis were to provide at least one reliable source. Google Books searches for "Sheikh Muhammad Chishty", "Khwaja Sheikh Pak" and adding 1928 provided nothing solid and I have found fragments from other people sharing the name or part of it. Unfortunately, like most of these articles, birth and death dates are usually unknown and this article reads too much like a personal biography. SwisterTwister   talk  16:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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