Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kickback (band)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  15:07, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Kickback (band)

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Completely unsourced and semi-advertorialized article about a band, which makes no strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC at all. The strongest thing here, strictly speaking, is their longevity itself -- but having been active for 12 years is not a notability freebie that exempts a band from having to be reliably sourced as accomplishing anything in that time that passes a notability criterion. I don't have access to any databases of French media in the 1990s or 2000s, so I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody can find better evidence of reliable source coverage than I've been able to -- but we don't keep unsourced articles just because it's possible that better sourcing might exist to salvage it with, we keep unsourced articles only if somebody shows hard evidence that better sourcing does exist to salvage it with. Bearcat (talk) 23:50, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 00:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 00:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 00:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. The coverage I found (from a simple Google search) isn't really convincing. The band is covered to some extent in the books Anthologie du rock français de 1956 à 2017 and (very briefly) Etat des lieux des musiques extrêmes : Les albums essentiels d'un demi-siècle de transgression hard rock, métal, punk, hardcore & co., mentioned here in a Vice interview with Sister Iodine, an Exclaim! article calls the band "legendary and controversial" , but doesn't provide much more, and the band's No Surrender album was selected by Metal Hammer (Germany) among "11 Hardcore albums of the 2000s that you must have heard". Some coverage of the singer's later career as a restaurateur only briefly mention the band . In terms of releases, 5 albums on Hostile Records and GSR could make a case for WP:NMUSIC criterion 5. That the band is significant enough for inclusion is possible, but I think we probably need more than these. --Michig (talk) 18:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing WP:NBAND. Honestly I don't see them scraping through with a #5 criteria because GSR seems to be a pretty small time outfit and on their web site are boasting about this band having released a record with them and their historic roster is not great Born from Pain (unsourced) Knuckledust, their greatest claim is 1 or more recordings released by Madball but it seems to have been a licensed local release from another record company . The other label looks a little more promising Hostile Recordings until you look at the bluelinks on their roster which are either redirects or unsupported claims. Dom from Paris (talk) 18:01, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor 11:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


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