Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kid Ink


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The result was   What the hell was I on? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 11:38, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Kid Ink

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Deprodded with assertation that he's on tour, but the tour in question seems to be a single radio station's summer concert. The rest of the sources are just local incidental coverage with little substance. I think it's WP:TOOSOON at this point. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:15, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - There's a Washington Post piece showing in the footnotes and the web footprint seems large-to-massive for this artist. Not my thang, but clearly bigger than a breadbox... This is an excellent example of what I was saying at the recent dramaboard discussion, Mr. Hammer, a case where you need to be tagging for more sources rather than dragging to deletion as the first option. Carrite (talk) 23:23, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What's the point of tagging for more sources when I don't think it's notable in the first place? I was unable to find any sources beyond what's in the article. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:48, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ETA: Most of the hits on Google News are a.) local, b.) trivial, or c.) false positives due to the searches picking it up on one site's "popular topics" sidebar, even on articles that have nothing to do with Kid Ink. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:43, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - The topic passes WP:GNG, having received significant coverage in reliable sources:
 * McKynzie, Amber (October 19, 2011) "Kid Ink, Wheels Up." XXL Magazine.
 * The Washington Post –   Kid Ink at Howard Theatre
 * He also has a profile at MTV UK, which also confers some notability in the music industry: Here. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:55, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 03:14, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The latter is just local fluff coverage. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:47, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Passes requirements. Nocturnal781 (talk) 04:25, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. At least two reliable sources - the Washington Post write-up and the XXL review - provide independent, significant coverage. Further, it's quite likely that the recent XXL issue (with Kid Ink as part of the "Freshmen" cover story) contains additional coverage. It's pretty clear our subject is an up-and-comer, but it appears enough coverage exists to satisfy WP:GNG and criterion 1 of WP:MUSICBIO.  Gongshow  Talk 05:46, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Tell me how the Washington article is not just a local fluff piece covering an upcoming concert. That's all I see there, just fluff and promotion. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, for starters, because the concert had already happened, it was not an "upcoming" concert.  Gongshow  Talk 06:09, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * IT's still "articles that simply report performance dates" which is not enough per WP:NMUSIC. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Regarding "Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates": I interpret that to apply to articles such as this one for the band We Kids Rock, or this one for the singer Xenia Rubinos. The tone, intent, and depth of coverage within these examples are quite different from the WashPost piece. Firstly, at 330+ words, it's difficult for me to classify the latter as "trivial" coverage. Moreover, while the first two examples read like "here's an upcoming concert on such-and-such day at such-and-such time for such-and-such price" promotions, the essence of the WashPost article is a "here's what happened" concert review - that's perfectly legitimate coverage, in my view.  Gongshow  Talk 07:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep There's one in-depth article from XXL, a live review from Washington Post, and smaller items on specialist hip-hop sites such as HipHopDX, which is a reliable source, since it is a commercial publication with a full editorial staff. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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