Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kidnapping of Amber Swartz–Garcia (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) KCVelaga (talk) 02:57, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Kidnapping of Amber Swartz–Garcia
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Wikipedia is not a directory of crimes or anything else. This is a two sentence article on an event 30 years ago that's unlikely to get any more coverage to permit anything longer. Guy (Help!) 20:17, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:58, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:58, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:05, 3 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is not news. &raquo; Shadowowl  &#124;  talk  20:44, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep This article should not be evaluated on its current two sentence length. The article was kept at an AfD debate in April of this year where the consensus was to keep. That debate brought forward many sources that can be used to expand the article. There has been ongoing coverage of this kidnapping in reliable sources for 30 years. The San Francisco Chronicle, for example, is not Pinole's local newspaper, but is instead the dominant regional newspaper for Northern California. The Chronicle has published at least 66 stories about this case over the past three decades. Consider this story about the impact of the kidnapping on her family and this story about the man who confessed to the kidnapping and murder. Both stories were published many years after the kidnapping. Ongoing coverage is not limited to the Chronicle and a reading of the April AfD debate will lead editors to many other sources that can be used to expand the article. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  00:48, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. I was notified on my TP as a former AfD participant (but I would have !voted anyway - I vote on almost all AfDs in the crime delsort). Ahould not have been nominated so close to previous keep. I will just repeat my previous comment : Significant WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. 198919982000200220092009 201320132013 2015 2016. books - . Seems early coverage is primarily as "Amber Swartz" (and that Garcia was tacked on at some later date - per this rather in-depth piece - her father Bernie Swartz was murdered a few months prior to her birth and her mother lived with Al Garcia but did not marry him due to police pension issues) - and that this was a nationwide photograph item in 1988... We judge NCRIME by coverage, and this specific kidnapping has very wide and continuing coverage. Icewhiz (talk) 03:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong keep – This stub article is notable on its face, and there are many online and offline references to build it out. That being said, it currently passes muster as a stub. Having fun! Cheers!   03:44, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note I have expanded the article significantly and added several references. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  04:49, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, Well sourced and well worthy of inclusion. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:28, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article appears to be improved, with sufficient amount of reliable sources. Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 06:43, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap sh*t room 09:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:13, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. Enough already. BabbaQ (talk) 21:22, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:HEY, atop the clear KEEP earlier this year. E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:38, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, sources are reliable ones that demonstrate notability outside the immediate vicinity of where it happened. Daniel Case (talk) 02:18, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep since the article is properly sourced. Knightrises10 (talk) 18:31, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


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