Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kilimall


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  20:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Kilimall

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purely promotional article, almsot to the extent of G11. They may possibly be notable, though the notices and PR in the references are not enough to show it. But if there is some notability, it would needto be started over from scratch.  DGG ( talk ) 06:56, 2 May 2018 (UTC)  DGG ( talk ) 06:56, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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 * Undecided: Definitely not yet a significant e-commerce platform in Nigeria, still has a long way to go to meet up with Jumia and Konga. Not like my first sentence is relevant to assessing its notability on Wikipedia, just that the first crop of references I was seeing were releases on how they want to compete with those two, which is normal for any new company coming to beat its established competitors, but when I started to search deeper I found out that they seem to have substantial coverage in Kenya, such as Africa’s e-commerce boom is giving rise to a sophisticated African digital consumer, Killmall signs exclusive smartphone deals, Int’l Women’s Day: Kilimall to celebrate Nigerian women with daring dreams with one of the sources calling them the biggest in East Africa. That in itself is not an automatic claim of notability, but it is a sign of noteworthiness. Since the nominator issue with the article is based mainly on its terrible state, I find it difficult to tend towards it being kept as I'm not interested in improving the article. HandsomeBoy (talk) 16:58, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Kilimall has more influence in Kenya, and I recommend keeping conetnt in Kilimall Kenya and delete content about Kilimall Nigeria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.77.106.156 (talk) 06:00, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * @ip user it doesn't work that way, this AFD is to determine if Killmall as an international corporation is notable for inclusion on Wikipedia, irrespective of the varying level of significance each individual branch might have. If Killmall Kenya is clearly notable, this article would have been kept, but it isn't very apparent. Besides it is logical to think that for a subordinate to be notable, then the parent company should too. It's just like saying "Microsoft Kenya" is notable but "Microsoft" is not notable, makes little sense from my understanding.HandsomeBoy (talk) 08:20, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 21:41, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, but with a recommendation to create anew - This is an interesting scenario as the company likely passes WP:GNG but fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. As of yet the company has not achieved the level of in-depth, significant coverage needed to pass the new NCORP guidelines, but many smaller news articles do cover the company. If those that discuss routine business news I consider to be irrelevant, but these stories seems to be more along the lines of news stories than business announcements. Then again, some could also be considered as trivial PR coverage (Kilimall does X, Kilimall sells Y, Kilimall opens location E) generated by Kilimall to increase their notoriety. There is also the concern that the article in question was recently (and possibly still is) the target of a marketing blitz perpetrated by a sock farm at []. My recommendation would therefor be to delete the article and apply the WP:TNT option to have a more experienced editor create the article in a non-promotional manner. This would allow said editor(s) to decide which of the many minor sources concerning Kilimall are notable enough for inclusion.--SamHolt6 (talk) 23:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - subject is clearly notable so I'd go with keep but I don't know who is willing here to remove promotional tone. Störm   (talk)  09:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:PROMO. Strictly advertorial to the point of being G11 eligible. Notability is marginal at best; just an e-commerce company going about its business. K.e.coffman (talk) 17:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete tedious WP:ARTSPAM, supposedly written by the company's now former PR Manager. Feel free to re-create, if NCORP and GNG is met. Sam Sailor 19:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


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