Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Killing of Barel Hadaria Shmueli


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The "keep" opinions are weak. They invoke WP:DIVERSE, but that is a necessary, not a sufficient criterium for inclusion of an article about an event. They don't address the other reasons for deletion (NOTNEWS, NOTMEMORIAL, BLP1E, WP:MILL).  Sandstein  09:53, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Killing of Barel Hadaria Shmueli

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WP:NOTNEWS, WP:NOTMEMORIAL a soldier was killed (and yes Israeli "Border Police" are soldiers actively engaged in military operations) during an ongoing conflict. Utterly non-notable. Nableezy 16:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Nableezy  16:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. Nableezy 16:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:12, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:RAPID Its only half year passed but its already meet WP:DIVERSE ,,, also there is some developments --Shrike (talk) 17:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The development being that the Hebrew Wikipedia deleted the article for being non-notable? Ok ...  nableezy  - 18:06, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Weak delete or merge/redirect to 2018–2019 Gaza border protests - My condolences, and I'm not saying that it's not an unfortunate and tragic event. While the content can be verified using decent sources, individual border skirmish incidents making the news isn't necessarily always article-worthy per WP:NOTNEWS, WP:1E, WP:NOTOBITUARY, etc.  If there were more sources directly about the person's life and career, a more complete and general WP:BLP article could be written including the circumstances of his death.  If may be WP:DUE for mention at the more general article and a redirect from the name would satisfy search results.  As for WP-related criticism because the article was deleted on one of the projects it doesn't change much to this, most people are unaware of how WP really works, I'm not particularly familiar with the policies of other language wikis myself.  — Paleo  Neonate  – 19:03, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete; I fail to see that a soldier on duty being killed is notable, (if it is, then we lack some thousand (million?) articles). Merge to 2018–2019 Gaza border protests anything noteworthy, Huldra (talk) 20:35, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * "On August 21, 2021, Barel Hadaria Shmueli, an Israel Border Police sergeant, was shot in the head during the 2018–2019 Gaza border protests."
 * There is something wrong here. My point is that no, that doesn't seem like the right target article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:05, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair, re-worded, though I would prefer retitling the original target as the protests never really stopped.  nableezy  - 19:17, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2021 as merge/redirect perhaps? According to ru-WP there were consequences. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:18, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Would work for a merge target if it needs to be merged.  nableezy  - 19:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is a WP:BLP1E and it isn't a particularly notable single event. Zerotalk 23:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:DIVERSE. Dgw  Talk  19:28, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment The coverage about the incident is still ongoing a half year after the incident --Shrike (talk) 19:51, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * So an inquiry took 6 months to complete. That's normal for a military death and doesn't add notability. Zerotalk 13:32, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Its add notability because it reported by WP:RS Shrike (talk) 18:16, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There is an independent inquiry. I did not write it in the article. Briefly, the medic who took care of the victim was post-traumatic, there were no stretcher nor helicopter, although it was in the area of Israel, not in Gaza. The ride to the hospital took 1:45 hours instead of 50 minutes regularly. Dgw  Talk  14:45, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep Already explained by others WP:DIVERSE.Tritomex (talk) 19:09, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete soldier doing his job? Plenty of those, poor buggers.  SN54129  05:52, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * DeleteThe event is a death that occurred 9 days after wounding in a border incident when it received routine and diverse coverage on the day of death but otherwise is of no "enduring historical significance" or "significant lasting effect". WP is not here to record everyday events, even if newsworthy, or to memorialize the death of a non notable person. Selfstudier (talk) 12:27, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Not an I/P regular, but this seems to be WP:NOTNEWS, lacks WP:SUSTAINED coverage. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:07, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge (maybe?) to 2018–2019 Gaza border protests, arguments for such a merge are convincing. - GizzyCatBella  🍁  10:22, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @GizzyCatBella "On August 21, 2021..."? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:37, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Shmueli was one of the only Israeli victims of the highly publicized border riots. His death was extensively covered by a number of reliable sources as it was heavily politicized in Israeli. The military and many politicians faced major public backlash and criticism from activists and right-wing lawmakers. Protocols for responding to riots have been changed (personnel will now be stationed further back in safer shooting positions) Bennet agreed to advance a proposed law allowing family members to use the sperm of dead relatives has received after Shmueli's mother. (apologies for formatting, I am editing this in a rush as I haven't been able to respond to the AfD, and it will be deleted soon) Mooonswimmer 13:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


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