Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Killing of Jonathan Lewis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. There is no consensus on whether this article meets the standards discussed in WP:NCRIME and WP:NEVENT.  Malinaccier ( talk ) 01:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Killing of Jonathan Lewis

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Coverage is not sustained and significant enough to justify this article about the manslaughter of a teen. Zanahary (talk) 07:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep: I'm counting 10 reliable sources with WP:SIGCOV covering this event. I think some concerns regarding WP:NCRIME, WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE, and WP:NTEMP are warranted, but the young age and the alleged exceptional viciousness of the alleged perpetrators do make the event more than a run-of-the-mill killing. Ultimately, since there's WP:NODEADLINE, I think that at this juncture it makes sense to keep and circle back if it turns out that the notability was temporary.
 * Mel ma nn  07:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't think a crime's "exceptional viciousness" holds any weight over WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Nevada. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: No coverage past the event in November, no lasting notability. Sad event, appears to be only a news item at this point. NOTNEWS. Oaktree b (talk) 12:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak delete - Unusual amount of international coverage on this one - being picked up by the BBC. My answer comes down to WP:PERP's description of coverage of notable victims and the focus of coverage being on the event or the individual. I feel on balance, the event is covered as news much more than the victim's role is covered as a subject of personal interest. BrigadierG (talk) 12:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: As the incident has received nationwide coverage, I've found at least 15 reliable sources for the article. I'm in agreement with @Melmann, considering the young age of the victim and brutality of this crime this is beyond ordinary even for a murder. There's not so much coverage after November, but this will probably change in the future as the suspects are brought to justice and when they find the remaining perpetrator.
 * Cheera L (talk) 19:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, sadly. Murders and killing type articles go by WP:NEVENT, which this fails. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * How so? This case in particular has received significant coverage in a wide variety of news outlets and the media. It's a story having been reported and impacted all over the world, not just in the U.S. Cheera L (talk) 02:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The non-routine coverage was for about a week. With events, WP:SUSTAINED coverage is a consideration, which this fails. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla  Ohhhhhh, no! 08:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - User Melmanns rationale is the most convincing. The sourcing is within WP:SIGCOV at this time and several aspects of this this case already mentioned above makes this killing notable. I do believe WP:GNG applies as well. BabbaQ (talk) 04:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to satisfy WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:37, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete I definitely have 'some concerns regarding WP:NCRIME, WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE, and WP:NTEMP". There is nothing in WP policies that makes an exception for the "viciousness" of a crime. Yes, newspapers and news TV did pick it up, undoubtedly because of how they profit off of sensationalism, but we shouldn't fall into the same swamp. I am strongly against this as WP:NCRIME. Lamona (talk) 02:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per above, the method of death is irrelevant. If there is no continued coverage it isn't currently notable. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep meets our notability guideline. Lightburst (talk) 03:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, NOTNEWS and SUSTAINED. &#126;~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:05, 16 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.