Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Killing of Takeoff


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Killing of Takeoff
The result was Merge to Takeoff (rapper) per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) — PerfectSoundWhatever  (t; c) 01:27, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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I don't see a reason to have an entire article focused to this as of yet. This could quite easily be merged in to Takeoff TheEpTic (talk) 11:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete - We're currently having a discussion as to whether there are sufficient reliable sources (per BLP) to even report his death in the main article, so there's no way that a whole article on his death meets GNG. If consensus forms that there are sufficient reliable sources to report the death, then possibly merge. WJ94 (talk) 11:56, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * i agree, there doesn't seem to be enough details that could warrant an article about this topic Gamertrash14 (talk) 11:57, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. EstrellaSuecia (talk) 12:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge without redirect to Takeoff (rapper) per nomination. News reports are starting to appear in reliable sources in Google News, but there's nothing yet to suggest that more than a few paragraphs will be needed to describe this sad event. Storchy (talk) 12:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge seems pretty clear cut from this discussion that even if there is enough appropriate sourcing its fairly easily covered in the main article, no need for a spinoff. --WhoIs 127.0.0.1 ping/loopback 12:11, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge - not enough, and probably won't ever require a separate article. Anarchyte  ( talk ) 12:34, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge When all information has been confirmed by the police corps in Houston we can Merge it in his main article Takeoff. --AlwaysNick (talk) 12:39, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Texas. Shellwood (talk) 12:43, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Then open your eyes, TheEpTic. Jokes aside, it isn’t really that notable enough for its own separate page. To be fair, pnb should’ve had a page like this if a page like this for takeoff exists. Wikieism (talk) 7:46 November 1, 2022 CST
 * Merge with Takeoff (rapper): per nom. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 12:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - his death has not been officially confirmed yet. Most reliable sources, including news sites (that aren’t TMZ) and the authorities haven’t reported it yet, and most of this seems to be coming out of social media hubbub. We don’t actually know if he is dead or alive, and right now, at this moment in time, providing information on Wikipedia that suggests a solid answer is a huge insult to the integrity of the site, and incredibly disrespectful to the very real people involved in this incident. חביתוש ~ Havitush  (talk) 12:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Reply - Houston police have confirmed a single fatality at the location and time of the incident. Reliable news sources such as like The Washington Post, The Guardian, The Rolling Stone, and Fox News have all reported the incident, noting the fact that the fatality is reported to be Takeoff. gtgamer79   (talk)  13:03, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think a flat-out deletion is the best course of action here. You make great points, but plenty of reliable sources have covered Takeoff's death, as seen above. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 14:35, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 13:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Mere: Per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:24, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge into Takeoff (rapper). A new section titled Death with this info.  GR 86  (📱) 13:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete can easily be covered in main article. &mdash;Jonny Nixon (talk) 13:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge into Takeoff (rapper) per nom. Spiderpig662 (talk) 13:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge into Takeoff (rapper) per nom. Timothytyy (talk) 13:51, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete no need for it's own article, there isn't enough information to warrant it. ollyhinge11 (talk) 13:56, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge. No way is this notable enough for its own article. sixty nine   • whaddya want? •  14:11, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge. Article creation premature; amount of info that exists, so soon after the event, is slim. Solipsism 101 (talk) 14:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Someone has merged some content from this page to Takeoff (rapper), so if consensus is to delete/merge, this page should be kept as a redirect to provide attribution. WJ94 (talk) 14:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge - per nom. Enough said. mediafanatic17   talk  15:04, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge without redirect to Takeoff (rapper). No need for a separate article. GeorgeJack (talk)
 * Merge without redirect; details are not confirmed, currently not distinct and noteworthy event to justify as standalone article. &mdash; Safety Cap (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think the answer is obvious, merge without question. User:HumanxAnthro ( Nina Cortex x Coco Bandicoot ) 15:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. I agree with previous users that, as of now, details are sparse and unconfirmed. A determination can be made in the future if this article becomes necessary again or can remain part of Takeoff (rapper). Fireboltsilver (talk) 15:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge and snow close.  nableezy  - 15:56, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge. Tragic, but highly common in hip-hop, unfortunately. We don't have an article on rappers who have been murdered for nothing. ColorTheoryRGB   C M Y K  16:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete too damn soon, it’s not even been 18 hours it doesn’t need its own article at this time when we don’t even know full details. Trillfendi (talk) 16:08, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Speedy Merge - This article can easily be merged with Takeoff. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Speedy merge. The “Death” section in Takeoff’s article is enough to cover his tragic demise. Rest in peace to him. Vida0007 (talk) 16:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom. Sock   ( tock talk)  16:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - as an event, it's sadly run-of-the-mill, and you would be hard-pressed to find any "Killing of" articles for the many other rappers who have been "offed" in the last year. These types of article generate a lot of public comment accusing Wikipedia of trying to be a newspaper, which we know it isn't. Let the newspapers write the factual and/or speculative articles about deaths like this. Ref (chew) (do) 17:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - this article should be kept but the title should be changed to be about the public shooting, not "the killing of." This article needs more development but it should be its own article. SparklingSnail (talk) 17:45, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Why? Per WP:SIZERULE Takeoff (rapper) is nowhere near needing to be split.  nableezy  - 18:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Lnkvt (talk) 17:51, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - No need to be an article. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 18:07, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge Not enough is known about the killing to warrant an article. No prejudice against recreating if the section is long enough, or if the killing ends up becoming a generation-changing event with books, films and documentaries like Tupac and Biggie. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom Chloe0303 (talk) 18:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom@Chloe0303 2001:5B0:47C3:4C08:6948:6A6:565D:B893 (talk) 18:46, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge to Takeoff (rapper) per WP:SNOW.  Erpert  blah, blah, blah... 19:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge; not enough content to justify an entire article; copy content over to main page.--Zehaha (talk) 19:29, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge into Takeoff's page.  conman33  (. . .talk)  19:36, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article is substantial and sourced enough to be kept. The killing is this generation's Murder of Tupac Shakur and Murder of The Notorious B.I.G., and the details are substantial to the point where it can be broken off into its own article. RIP, this one hurt. DrewieStewie (talk) 19:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy merge Article does not need to be deleted but does not seem notable in it's own right unlike some other killings of rappers. Wikipedia isn't a newspaper as some other people have said, and so it should be merged with the article Takeoff. CIN I&#38;II (talk) 20:29, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge into Takeoff's page; This article on its own does not warrant an entire page to itself Agent123456789 (talk) 20:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to Takeoff (rapper), per above XxLuckyCxX (talk) 20:57, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge to Takeoff (rapper) Lilsusanalex (talk) 21:25, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Speedy Merge. It's possible that the death of Takeoff can have substantial details added as we learn more, but we can always restore the article later in such event.WP:CRYSTALBALL exists for a reason.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 21:59, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge Per others. If and when the death is able to be a standalone article, a different title is definitely needed to either "Death of Takeoff" (per pretty much any standalone death article) or "Murder of Takeoff" (per pretty much any murder victim's standalone page). It does seem to be snowing-- Rockchalk 717 23:08, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Why is this still open? Clearly a SNOW merge at this point. sixty nine   • whaddya want? •  23:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy Merge: Per all above comments, speedy merge because a consensus has clearly been met. Spilia4 (talk) 00:12, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge for now, not enough info has come out to warrant a separate article. RIP. Owellorthanothy (talk) 01:00, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge into the main article, he is not famous enough to have separate article to his death. Nag-Eedit si Mang Robert (talk) 01:18, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.