Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Iljae


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Sr13 is almost  Singu  larity  08:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Kim Iljae

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The current version of the article is unsupported by reliable Chinese historical sources (e.g., the Book of Han) and, frankly, is entirely fantastical. The current style of the article also violates WP:V and WP:MOS-ZH (and mildly violates WP:MOS-KO, as, based on both of those style manuals, the article should be named Jin Ridi) and is unsalvageable. (I also find it distressing that the user who created this article,, has been similarly disregarding WP:V and WP:MOS-ZH on many articles that he has written lately, although this one is particularly egregious since this person was a clearly established Chinese historical personality on whom a fantastical account is being presented as being factual.) Moreover, the version of the events plainly also conflicts with the more reliable datings of both Gaya Confederacy and Silla, as given by those articles (and those dates are clealry not written by Chinese editors). Delete. --Nlu (talk) 08:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Violations of a style guide are not grounds for deletion.  I suggest nominator edit the article to address nominator's concerns. RandomCritic 14:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * As discussed above, the article is in such a wacky state that there's really nothing to edit from that would address these concerns, other than to start over. It would be like if someone invented an origin for Bill Clinton where he was a descendant of DeWitt Clinton and then wrote an entire article on DeWitt Clinton on that invented origin.  --Nlu (talk) 15:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep if subject is really "a clearly established Chinese historical personality" as nominator states, and improve. -- Beloved freak  15:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep and speedy close. There is no rationale for deletion here. Please follow recommended dispute resolution procedures. AFD is not for solving content disputes. --Dhartung | Talk 19:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong keep The subject is said by the nominator to be "...a clearly established Chinese historical personality..." so notability is asserted. The issue seems to be one of editing so fix it not bring it to AfD. --Malcolmxl5 22:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep as explained above, anyway WP:SNOW is happening here.--JForget 23:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Rewrite and Move to Jin Midi (that was how I was told to pronounce his name, though I can't find a source for that at the moment...). The solution, I suppose, is not deletion. _dk 19:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.