Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Kaijalainen


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The result was   delete due to the WP:ATHLETE failure (if an editor has proof that the Finnish league is actually fully professional, let me know and I'll restore). пﮟოьεԻ  5  7  14:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Kim Kaijalainen

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PROD removed. This player appears to fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG despite apparently being professional himself. Spiderone 07:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Spiderone  07:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 08:26, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Professional player. Does not fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. --SM (talk) 13:06, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * But he does though! - he hasn't played in a fully-pro league, and he hasn't reveived significant coverage! GiantSnowman 15:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Per nom. GauchoDude (talk) 23:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Has played in the Finnish top league and got some coverage in significant sources . ,,n (talk) 00:32, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not add these links to the article and improve it? Listing links on an AfD isn't the same as those same links being put on an article to improve it and prove notability. GiantSnowman 08:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:17, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:18, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, looks like he is someone "who ha[s] competed at the fully professional level of a sport", which the nominator admits. Nyttend (talk) 20:56, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No he fails as the league isn't fully pro until a source says it is Spiderone  21:00, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete due to no citation or any information in the article. Govvy (talk) 10:23, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep has played in a notable European top-level league and has attracted web profiles. Have added appropriate references to the article. Eldumpo (talk) 20:54, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Web profiles often go down as trivial mentions as you don't have to be notable or even to have made an appearance to receive one. I believe the WP:GNG guidelines say that they must have more than just passing mentions and run-of-the-mill stuff. Spiderone  07:23, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It isn't a passing mention - it's a profile of him. Eldumpo (talk) 22:00, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes but any Joe Bloggs can have a profile about themselves Spiderone  07:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Playing at a fully professional level. WP:ATH makes does not require every team/player in the league he competes to be fully pro. DavidDublin (talk) 12:00, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Steve-Ho (talk) 18:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
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