Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Stolz (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep per near unanimity of responses, discounting nominator, IP addresses and possible socks. Non-admin closure by Skomorokh  00:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Kim Stolz
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Nominating articles individually (sorry for the mix-up). Please see previous AfD, this is an article that received no, or very few, votes to keep. Subject fails BIO1E, BIO Additional criteria, and Entertainers. She is an also-ran on a television game show, notable only in that context. The fact that a print model gets work as a print model is not notable. We have articles for the winner, runner-up and 3rd place contestants from ANTM. The others are not noteworthy, apart from their appearance on ANTM, and have yet to establish themselves as leaders in their chosen profession. Consequently, I am nominating all but the top 3 finishers from the ANTM cycles for deletion. In time they may prove notable enough for an article in the encyclopedia but until then they are quite well represented at all the various ANTM articles and the ANTM dedicated wiki. L0b0t (talk) 19:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Per my nomination. L0b0t (talk) 19:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I cannot support this nomination since you called her an 'also-ran', which is strongly unadvised in nominations since we try to keep a neutral view of things. But also, Kim has been one of the few Top Model contestants to go beyond her fame from that show, and get a good gig on MTV/MTVU as a correspondent and also a strong supporter and good spokesperson for gay rights in the media. Beyond the fansite mentions the article has plenty of sources and I'm sure more can be found.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 22:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   --  brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 22:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Has not accomplished anything notable and has not received significant media coverage. -- brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 22:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. I don't know if such a thing exists but I saw some people use weak keeps and stuff and that's how I feel. She has been on numerous civers as a gay right spokesperson, has had some significant work for MTV. Siemgi 23:18 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep her MTV stuff alone should be enough and she has done more than that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.194.35.225 (talk) 12:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, you lost me there. She's one of the, I don't know, about ten contestants who have successfully turned their ANTM stint into an opening to the TV world, she's really a keep to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.231.0.64 (talk) 23:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
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 * Keep. In the previous group AfD, I noted that she was one of the few that parlayed her experience into something bigger.  She's an MTV personality now, and that's good enough for me. SKS2K6 (talk) 02:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, per SKS2K6 User:Whadaheck (User talk:Whadaheck) 13:10 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * — Whadaheck (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Housekeeping note: Please see Suspected sock puppets/81.194.35.225 regarding edits by anonymous users and Whadaheck to recent AFD votes. Yechiel (Shalom) 03:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. As someone with such a large, widely-publicized presence on MTV (VJ, show host, news correspondent) and active presence in LGBT media, Kim clearly does not fail any of the notability guidelines the nominator specified. I feel the previously-edited article, however, did a somewhat poor job establishing notability criteria, so I tried to clean this article up (especially the intro). Hope this helps other voters. Dark clear obsession (talk) 06:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Being an MTV personality looks sufficiently enough to be notable and also there is a few good sources as well. -- JForget 23:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


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