Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Sung-hee


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Kara (South Korean band). (non-admin closure) SST  flyer  05:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Kim Sung-hee

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Singer does not have independent notability per WP:MUSBIO. None of the sources used in the article are reliable. Random86 (talk) 20:47, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Random86 (talk) 20:47, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Random86 (talk) 20:47, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as there's nothing actually convincing of her own notability article apart from the group, nothing convincing from the information given. SwisterTwister   talk  21:08, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: It appears that all members of Kara (South Korean band) have stand-alone articles.  This one is reasonably extensive and sourced, she seems to have three solo albums.  Adequate indicia of notability plus a redirect to Kara (South Korean band) would put WP:UNDUE weight on one performer.  If deletion is going to happen, then the other six or seven biographies of the group also probably should be AfD'd and perhaps List of members of Kara (South Korean band) could be created.  But frankly, I think this one is a keep, as are all the others. I don't follow k-pop, but the coverage seems adequate to me.   Montanabw (talk)  06:52, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Adequate indicia of notability plus a redirect to Kara (South Korean band) would put WP:UNDUE weight on one performer—I don't understand this part? 2NE1 is just as famous as Kara, but Minzy's article was deleted because she is not independatly notable. Kim Sung-hee didn't had article until earlier this year. She had some OST songs, but their notability hasn't been established. Also, as I said before, none of the article's sources are reliable. It also wouldn't make sense to delete the notable members of Kara because one is less notable. Random86 (talk) 07:37, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It is equally ridiculous to delete one member and leave all the others. Your logic fails.  Seriously, would you delete Mick Fleetwood because he's not done as much work outside of the band as other members of Fleetwood Mac?    Montanabw (talk)  08:31, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Then why does WP:MUSBIO say "Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band"? Plenty of non-notable band members have been deleted before this. Random86 (talk) 09:06, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I fail to see any real distinction between this person and the other past and present members of Kara. I say they all stay or they all go into a unified list.  Instead of wasting bandwidth on this, why not create List of members of Kara. All of this deletionist stuff on these borderline cases is really quite unnecessary.  No need to throw away people's work when it can be salvaged in some fashion.   Montanabw (talk)  01:54, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, Nicole Jung for example has a notable solo career in both South Korea and Japan, with charted albums/singles. Some of the other members have acting careers. I really don't understand this "all stay or all go" idea. There are many K-pop idol groups with some notable members and some non-notable members. Even if a List of members of Kara article is created, the notable members will still have their own articles. Random86 (talk) 04:33, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I frankly think that this article should be kept. It seems POINT-y to nominate just one when ALL the others in the group have separate articles.  There is adequate indicia of notability.  Montanabw (talk)  08:49, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete None sources referenced in the article are reliable. Google search gets more of the same. Gab4gab (talk) 13:59, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is not unusual for one member of a group to not be individually notable when others are (and it's possible that others need to be nominated for AfD as well). This particular one has done nothing noteworthy outside the group and is thus a good candidate for deletion. Note that all the sourcing is from either fan sites (http://www.karaholic.com/forums/) or from allkpop, a fan/company portal, IMO. This person,, is no Mick Fleetwood! Drmies (talk) 17:00, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: I previously suggested a list be created of all members, it is possible that all need to be gone, but in that case, a List is appropriate, as the article would be bloated with merged content.  Frankly, I wish that AfD would be a bit more creative in that respect, much work could be salvaged if it were made into list articles.   Montanabw (talk)  04:08, 2 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.