Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kimberly Anne Guglielmo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 07:27, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Kimberly Anne Guglielmo

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I don't think that this meets the GNG or the notability standard set out at WP:Notability_(people).

There's a separate article about the murderer at Mark Guglielmo that already contains most of the information in this article that is worth retaining. The case did get significant press coverage, I just don't see a need to have a separate article on the victim. Kevin (talk) 07:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep There are several issues here with contradictory statements being made with regards to the status of the article. 1. For instance you stated: "The Case did get sufficient press coverage" and below, someone else added "There is minimal press coverage". What is meant by "sufficient" and what is meant by "minimal"? 2. Consider the year of the murder - 1994. Most of the press articles were not on line at that time. The Miami press did carry articles and they are (or have been available). The same was true for some of the papers in New York and other others related to the crime. 3. The unsourced claims relating to the court transcripts are untrue since the transcripts are available but they are not on line. Most of the 'citations needed' requests can be linked directly to the court transcripts. 4. The removal of the judge is a documented issue by the Florida Supreme Court. The judge was linked to another infamous case and the reaffirmation of removal document is available on line. 4. The timeline of the case puts it in the path of the O.J. Simpson case and the Oklahoma bombing case which naturally drowns out much of the media coverage. 5. Other statements listed as 'accusations' relating to the victim's mother, for instance, are in the court files. At the moment there is no single source such as a book that is available on this case. Other questions relating to the pregnacy, the reason why her killer bought a shotgun (not a handgun) after the murder but never used it, and so on, are all recorded in the transcripts. But since there was no trial and the killer offered no evidence or explanation, and the sentencing was delayed for a week to allow a new 'upward departure' law to come into force that was used in sentencing, all make this a notable case because a person was locked up for 40 without any explanation being given. Therefore removal of the article only aides the ambiguity of 'out of sight, out of mind'. So anyone wanting to find a single source for all of this information will not be able to find it. There is no explanation as to why events of that day took place. When all is said and done, this is not, as one person indicates, just another murder, due to the manner in which the murder and disposal of the corpse both took place. Just tidy it up by inserting the required documentation for verification.
 * Delete or rename to Murder of Kimberly Anne Guglielmo. As noted by the nom, her husbands article has most of the same information and this could safely be deleted. However, it's conceivable that one may want more information about the murder. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:06, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete The article about her husband says he is serving a sentence for second degree murder. His article and this one are unsourced heaps of BLP violations, asserting that police and the prosecutor together destroyed evidence, and making many other extreme and unsourced claims about them as well as the judge and the woman's mother. Wikipedia is not a directory of every violent death in history. The source for the husband's article appears to be an archived blog written by the dead woman's father, not an adequate source, and court documents, which are also not acceptable sources to establish notability. A Google News search shows no articles about "Kimberly Anne Guglielmo, and only one article from 1994 about "Kimberly Ann Guglielmo," shortly after she disappeared, It shows 5 articles such as and  from Florida papers from 1994-1995 about Mark Guglielmo  as the killer. They do not contain support for  the accusations against the  police and prosecutors. The present article is pretty much a duplicate of the article about the husband, who is not really a notable criminal by Wikipedia standards WP:BIO. There is minimal press coverage. I suggest that his article also be put through AFD. Edison (talk) 21:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Per WP:BLP, I have removed some of the BLP violations which consisted of unsourced accusations against the police, the prosecutor, and the judge. Edison (talk) 19:31, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. There is (surprisingly) very little coverage of this crime. Fails WP:EVENT. Mark Guglielmo should also be deleted or both should redirect to Murder of Kimberly Anne Guglielmo if this one somehow survives the Afd process. Location (talk) 20:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.