Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kimberly Caldwell (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Per WP:SNOW and/or WP:IAR, no need for this to run any longer. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Kimberly Caldwell
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Delete. After Articles for deletion/Alexis Grace (2nd nomination) saw a “delete” outcome, I feel that the time has come to determine which of the American Idol contestants truly deserve their own articles. WP:NOTINHERITED tells us that just because somebody appeared on American Idol, it doesn’t make them notable and worthy of an article. This fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. The woman has done nothing since leaving the programme, bar having a fling with another contestant and having a cameo appearence in a movie as herself. DJ 08:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Even if your purge of all the AI finalists is correct, you're wrong on this one. Caldwell has been a host or correspondent on a number of entertainment or reality shows since her time on AI; her IMDB listing is indicative of this.  She hasn't become a big star from AI, but she hasn't "done nothing" either, and an article on her is warranted.  Wasted Time R (talk) 11:06, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. She has done just enough post-Idol to merit inclusion.  young  american  (wtf?) 11:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

This sort of mass nomination is unproductive because it leads to people voting based on "I like it"/"I don't like it" since no one can reasonably be expected to properly research 38 articles of the same nature in a week. (Indeed this has already begun to happen.) Since the results of these AfDs are likely to be influenced by voting rather than a proper discussion, they should all be closed with no prejudice against reopening a few at a time after a good faith attempt to determine notability has been made. --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close as a (unintentionally) disruptive nomination. The nominator rapid fire nominated 38 American Idol contestants all with the same (invalid) rationale that Alexis Grace (who finished 11th and hasn't had a chance to do anything post Idol yet) was deleted.  It is quite clear that he/she made no attempt to research any of the nominations as several quite clearly meet multiple inclusion criteria.  Some of these articles should be kept, and others merged, but none should be deleted.  All arguably meet WP:MUSIC #9: "Has won or placed in a major music competition" by virtue of making the finals of American Idol and the less notable ones should at least be merged with their respective American Idol season X pages.


 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB. Jeni  ( talk ) 00:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB. Crafty (talk) 01:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per WikiProject Idol series; the Alexis Grace deletion was improper per that guideline, and this one is even more so. --RBBrittain (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.