Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King Cecilia of the Emerald Isle


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The result was delete. WP:SNOW Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:48, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

King Cecilia of the Emerald Isle

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Unverifiable, likely hoax. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 06:14, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm. During this timespan Ireland was divided into quite a number of Gaelic kingdoms. The existence of a king who ruled the entirety of Ireland, as the article claims, for so long (50 years) seems to be pretty unlikely and it seems to overlap with some other rulers who definitely existed back then too. High King of Ireland was a thing but as the article notes it was more like a an artifical construction without real power over the whole of Ireland. I tried to find something on this obscure name by checking through some refs which are given in other Gaelic kings articles, but I could not find anything. Thats obviously also not his real (Gaelic) name, if he really existed, so it will be hard to find more about him this way. The article does not give any source so it fails WP:VERIFY. I would not completely rule out that this person existed, but since there is no source to work with I would go for delete now, as we cant be sure that he is real. Dead Mary (talk) 10:58, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. I too have searched and been unable to find anything at all about him anywhere other than this Wikipedia article. Frankly, I just don't believe such a significant figure as "the first king to control all of Ireland" and who "frequently appears" in legend would not be findable somewhere. I don't regard the idea that this is not the original form of his name as a convincing reason for not finding anything about him, because if this name has had any significant amount of use for him then it ought to be findable somewhere, and if it hasn't then there is no justification for using it as his name in the article. I would have speedily deleted it as a hoax, and I am still not ruling out the possibility of doing so, but for now I'll wait and see what anyone else can say about this article. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:11, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. I agree that it's likely a hoax. List of High Kings of Ireland seems fairly comprehensive and well sourced and there isn't a name remotely similar to "Cecilia" on it as far as I can see. "of the Emerald Isle" also sounds like anachronism, considering Ireland wasn't referred to as such until the 18th century. Joe Roe (talk) 21:39, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:20, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:20, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete. Almost certainly a hoax. In any case, Ireland was not completely unified until 12th century. Ceosad (talk) 23:27, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per other comments, would seem to clearly meet WP:G3 for speedy deletion. At best, meets WP:GNG as apparently no coverage of subject (either offered in article or available anywhere independently). Guliolopez (talk) 01:01, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Likely hoax; definitely no sources appearing and therefore not notable if true. Can we also ban the creator for bad faith editing? Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 05:52, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can't find any sources either. Zerotalk 08:11, 25 November 2016 (UTC)


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