Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King County Metro fleet


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 15:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

King County Metro fleet

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Purely fancruft which fails GNG. Article has sources but mainly point to manufacturers websites or standard press releases created either by the metro company or local news outlets. I see most of what is here is also been placed in shorthand on the main KCM page. Nightfury 09:09, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Nightfury 09:11, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
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<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Fleet expansions are covered by The Seattle Times (example) and other local news outlets. The historic fleet has also been covered (example), even listing the models and year of manufacture. If anything, the Fleet section of the main KCM article should be moved to this list, as it is quite detailed and should be in summary form there.  Sounder Bruce  09:27, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:FANCRUFT. Generally these long arduous lists of every type of bus in a transit company's fleet (right down to the series number) come with a lack of depth of sources which still does not provide indication of notability. In this instance most of the sources are primary from King Country Metro, many others are from self-publishes sites such as busdude, plus a few other trivial mentions here and there. Ajf773 (talk) 09:44, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Major American bus fleet, meeting GNG as the subject of substantial coverage in multiple independently-published sources of presumed reliability. For those pondering the encyclopedic nature or lack thereof of the topic, we cover airline fleets, this seems analogous. Carrite (talk) 13:14, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:03, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - One of the largest transit systems in North America. Wikipedia has several pages like this (many that are not as well maintained) for bus fleets, rail fleets, and airliner fleets. A core concept on Wikipedia is to write in summary style and that means that some readers only need a quick summary (the lede), some need a moderate amount of information (a set of multiparagraph sections), and some readers need a lot of details (links to full-sized separate subarticles). For that reason, this subarticle is an important part of the King County Metro article, letting some readers do a "deep-dive" and get lots of details without cluttering the main page. While the page may need improvements, it's a good and notible article and should be kept. --RickyCourtney (talk) 20:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This isn't a summary style article. It's a exhaustive list of bus enthusiast cruft. Wikipedia has only a few articles for bus fleets and plenty have been removed during AfD as of recent. Summary content should remain in the parent article. Ajf773 (talk) 19:24, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep passes GNG due to substantial, consistent, and reliable coverage as described by SounderBruce Chetsford (talk) 02:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep -- a bit 'fancrafty' but suitable for a list; sources check out. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:41, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep-Passes GNG. Monikasj (talk) 06:24, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.