Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King Philip Came Over For Great Spaghetti


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The result was Speedy Close: Redirect to List of mnemonics per consensus. Withdrawn according; non admin closure. -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 19:21, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

King Philip Came Over For Great Spaghetti

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Mnemonic of a way to remember orders of classification. No real data to back up notability. I don't think this is going to stand on its own. -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 22:04, 28 April 2010 (UTC) -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 16:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Come on. This is important. A kid asked me what it meant because there was no wikipedia for it. And it is important. (how is a 4th grader gonna remember to type in classification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mozart998 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 28 April 2010
 * There's a difference between being important or helpful and being a valid encyclopedia article. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:56, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:44, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I've cleaned this up some and added a category and an external link. Is this any less worthy than Roy G. Biv? --Auntof6 (talk) 08:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to mnemonic list of mnemonics. It is less worthy of an article.  Roy G. Biv has hundreds of cites  compared to a handful for this particular mnemonic, which seems to be more common as "King Philip came over good spaghetti"   (I guess he had to go to Olive Garden for great spaghetti).  Even at that, it's not any more common than most "King Philip" variations .  It's a legitimate search term however, given that a lot of the variations start with "King Philip came" (and with that as a start, not surprising that some are more ribald than others).  Mandsford (talk) 13:31, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I can see that it's less worthy, but I don't think it should redirect to 'mnemonic'. It's an actual mnemonic, not a synonym for mnemonic. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm with you on this; perhaps a merge and redirect to Biological classification would be a better thing to do.
 * My goof on that. I should have said redirect to List of mnemonics, where similar forms are mentioned ("Dumb Kids Playing Chase On Freeway Go Splat" and "King Phillip, Come Out For God's Sake!".  Normally, I'd support redirecting to the article about what it's intended to help one memorize, but the lack of any mention now in biological classification leads me to think that it's been removed in the past, probably by some intellectual snobs who erase anything that they think "doesn't belong" in a "serious article".  We've all dealt with revert-holes, and I think it's more likely to survive as a piece of information in an article about mnemonics.  Mandsford (talk) 16:30, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That would make sense to me, as long as we actually add this mnemonic to that page! --Auntof6 (talk) 03:56, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Consider it done, Auntie. .  Mandsford (talk) 13:15, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I wrote this because it came up in our school. It was on a homework and no one knew it. I gave citations to the people who came up with the other ones in class. -Mozart998
 * redirect to list of mnemonics. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:31, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe we need a revert-hole after all. Mandsford (talk) 00:34, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh please. You were just for it. But the real thing is I am wondering why the (four letter word) it is being considered for deletion anyway. IT WENT UP YESTERDAY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. -Mozart998
 * It's a useful mnemonic, just maybe not one that merits its own article. As for the citations, Wikipedia requires certain things in sources, such as having the source material published and verifiable. If you're interested, you can read more about that at WP:SOURCES. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:56, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I've gone ahead and added the version from this article (and some sourcing to show that it's commonly used) to the mnemonics article. As demonstrated, anyone can come up with a sentence with the letters K-P-C-O-F-G-S and it's likely that variations would be added to a page like this.  It's a notable mnemonic only if lots of people recognize it, which would be true for the one that ends with "great spaghetti".  Mandsford (talk) 13:21, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect. It's a fun phrase, but Google Books finds only one hit (and 7 more for the "good spaghetti" version). Compare 667 hits for "Oh Be A Fine Girl/Guy Kiss Me", which is a redirect. -- Radagast 3 (talk) 13:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - a merge has already happened in List of mnemonics. I'm prepared to speedy close this AFD (and accordingly redirect the relevant article) unless there are objections.  -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 16:51, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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