Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King Punisher


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 04:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

King Punisher

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This is a BLP of a cybervandal. It has caused a bit of drama as it was created by some blocked sock and recreated by a SPA. However, the larger question is notability.

He seems to have mentioned in some books and articles, but:
 * 1) Does "mention" = notability if he's not the subject.
 * 2) All the articles are by the same author Dr. Matthew Williams, who is himself not particularly notable.
 * 3) All the subject seems to have done is vandalise one online site, which isn't notable enough for its own article.
 * 4) Even if that gives notability, does it fail BLP1E?

Discuss. Scott Mac 18:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: I signed up and recreated it because I thought the article was intriguing, so I decided to copy the file for offline keeping and attempt to improve on it. I decided to wait and let the original creator's SPI investigation close so the drama could be kept down to a mimimun. What is funny is that the guy died according to a local in the community at some city called Crystal City, but without a indication of what state. Demonical Monk  19:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Also about the SPA thing, I have an account on another wiki for Transformice which got 404ed by some vandals who claim to be in some Operation called Full Troll. Demonical Monk  19:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete and salt This is likely User:Pickbothmanlol. He's been creating articles on The Order (cyberterrorist gang) and the such, which apparently includes King Punisher, in addition to vandalizing Active Worlds, the site King Punisher was active on. Additionally, looking at the original references/bibliography for this article here, each and every article cited were cited by Pickbothmanlol on his various attempts to create a page for The Order (viewable by admins). AniMate 19:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * delete a previous version of this article had been deleted under BLP because it named the real life individual and called him a "cyberterrorist" without providing any footnoted sources to verify. Looking closer into the sources now, I see that the "cyberterrorist" is actually someone who vandalized pixel houses on cybersite(s?). And those places where he is active, as named in the sources, are not even notable as websites themselves - let alone identifying one individual as being "notable" for his activity on the site. Looks like someone trying to self promote. Active Banana (talk) 20:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt, per the above. -- ChrisO (talk) 12:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete and salt per AniMate and the Banana's reasoning. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.