Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kingdom Come (Demi Lovato song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Confident (album). TonyBallioni (talk) 01:25, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Kingdom Come (Demi Lovato song)

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Track fails WP:Notability (music) (WP:NSONGS). There's nothing outside of album reviews or artist commentary from any legitimate secondary sources covering this song. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 00:15, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Confident (album). This song isn’t notable.Trillfendi (talk) 00:40, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Confident (album) as it is a valid search term. Any notable information about the song can be safely contained in the article on the album. Aoba47 (talk) 17:49, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Although the article is in dire condition currently, this song has coverage outside of album reviews from quite a few sources: Billboard, Bustle, Spin, Idolator, Huffington Post, Seventeen magazine, Rap-Up. Interview with Billboard. Between these and album reviews I'm sure this article could be decently expanded.-- N Ø  18:19, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Interviews with artists (and sources that largely if not entirely rehash comments from those) don't count for the required significant coverage outside album reviews as artist commentary on tracks is just self promotion. With that in mind, Spin and perhaps Seventeen meet the requirements, though I'm not as sure about Huffington Post when it's rehashing Spin. Rap-Up on the other hand only has a brief paragraph and isn't enough by itself. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:41, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note - I've struck my keep vote in favour of supporting redirection, just to be in line with the consensus that has formed here. The little coverage obtained through the sources I listed can be contained on the album article.-- N Ø  08:35, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - per MaranoFan's sources. Rlendog (talk) 18:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 21:00, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Confident (album). An album track which charted on a minor chart with some reviews. Not notable enough. Foxnpichu (talk) 21:26, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect - Lack of third party sourcing providing significant coverage. Most of the sourcing is either passing mentions or first party quotes. Additionally, there’s very content present anyways - it’s not much more than credits transcribed into prose, that is better outline within the context of its respective album. I mean, read the background section. It’s short, and half of it’s consists of an unnecessary lengthy direct quote that could easily paraphrased into something to the capacity of “She asked someone to contribute to the song and they said yes.” There’s a lack of sourcing and content here.  Sergecross73   msg me  22:06, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep -- I know the article needs to be expanded but the song was charted and there is coverage outside of album reviews about the song, as mentioned above. Harut111 (talk) 08:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Charts (or lack thereof) are entirely moot. As for the linked URLs above, I guess at this point it comes down to whether one really counts Seventeen as having enough depth. Spin is fine, though everything else (other than the brief paragraph from Rap-Up) is either based on artist commentary or rehashing what other people wrote. SNUGGUMS (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 14:42, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Another criticizing article about the song. It mentions the rap part of the song as the worst of 2015. Iggy Azalea on Demi Lovato’s ‘Kingdom Come’: The Worst Rap Verse of 2015 Harut111 (talk) 13:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That Spin article has already been linked before. See my previous comments on it. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 16:19, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Even if interviews with the artist don't count towards notability (which is questionable), once a separate source reports on the interview or information from the interview there is no reason to exclude that now secondary source of the interview from contributing towards notability. Rlendog (talk) 15:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 22:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Confident (album). Coverage of the album doesn't count towards notability of the song. It is covered in Billboard and in Spin  that says it has the worst rap verse of 2015 (not a surprise the editor left it out). Aside from announcements (typically not notable), no other real significant coverage (the Huffington Post one is also just a rehash of the Spin article), a minor placing in a minor chart also does not add to notability, only two true sources would fail WP:NSONG. Hzh (talk) 13:07, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 00:41, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Confident (album). Qualitist (talk) 19:16, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.