Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kingpin (chess magazine)


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The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to List of chess periodicals. (non-admin closure) Actualcpscmscrutinize, talk 17:04, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Kingpin (chess magazine)

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None of the sources cited even remotely provide the depth of coverage necessary to meet WP:GNG, and a search provides nothing of any real consequence either. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:58, 21 October 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:27, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism and Sports. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:58, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - this publication suffers from the opposite problem to WP:RECENTISM, what might be called "pre-internetism". It had its heyday in the pre-internet era, the 1980s and 1990s, during which time many leading British chess players wrote for it. It is occasionally cited in chess books too, e.g. Amatzia Avni's "Devious Chess", Sarah Hurst's "Curse of Kirsan". Certainly any British player who was active in the 90s had heard of it, and many subscribed to it, enjoying its irreverence. However, internet-based sources that give it significant coverage are comparatively rare. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 01:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - trying adding the editor's name, Jonathan Manley, to the search. "Jonathan Manley chess" will produce plenty of hits, mostly related to Kingpin magazine. While most of the content is not available online, it can be seen that he interviewed many of the world's leading players and the magazine was highly regarded among chess players. The content from Tony Miles] is especially notable. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 01:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of chess periodicals as an AtD. If the entry grows enough WP:IS WP:RS refs with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth, it can be split, but at this point it does not meet guidelines.  // Timothy :: talk  12:26, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per MaxBrowne2. Double sharp (talk) 03:59, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Redirect to List of chess periodicals. If there are offline sources available, someone needs to do the work and find them. At the moment it doesn't pass GNG. Pawnkingthree (talk) 11:44, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of chess periodicals. I added a few sources from Newspapers Extended, and there are passing mentions also in some of Leonard Barden's columns such as the article topics in the latest Kingpin issue, but not the WP:SIGCOV we need for this to get its own page. BBQboffin (talk) 20:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)


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