Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kip McKean


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. -- Cirt (talk) 00:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Kip McKean

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This is an 'AfD by proxy' - a reader has emailed in to OTRS under ticket number 2010081310000638 (viewable to those with an OTRS account). I do not have permission to post the reader's name, but they're quite happy for their reasons below to be published: ''"I noticed that on wikipedia there is an entry for Kip McKean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_McKean), even though he does not fulfil the requirements of a notable person. He has not received a well-known and significant award or honor, or been nominated for one several times. He has not made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his specific field. He is not a scientist, researcher, philosopher or other kind of scholar. He is generally not regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by his peers or successors. He has not created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, and he is not a renowned world figure, or immediate family member of a renowned world figure, including but not limited to politicians or worldwide celebrities. In other words an article of Kip McKean is not warranted to be on wikipedia and, as you can see above, violates many of the criteria wikipedia sets for notable persons."''

The reader has asked that the article be nominated for deletion based on the above reasoning. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 14:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - as a proxy nominator, I am neutral in this discussion and do not wish to take part. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 14:44, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Since he and the church or denomination or movement he founded have significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources, thus satisfying the general WP:N notability guideline, as well as "has made a widely known contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field," satisfying WP:BIO. That contribution would be the founding and expansion of a particular church/religion/cult according to various references cited in the article and found in Google Book search. The article cites a 2003 Boston Globe article. In addition Google books shows 277 results of coverage in books about religion for example: "America's alternative religions," (1995) pages 134-140,  "The Stone Campbell movement" (2002) pages 35, 564-573, Larson's book of world religions'" (2004) pages 253-255, "A guide to new religious movements, (2005) pages 23-24. Google News archive shows several results about the person, only viewable by payment or at a good library:  which appeared in some major newspapers in numerous US cities in 1995, 1996 and 1997. Poorly sourced or material which violates WP:NPOV material should be removed from any article about a living person, but someone simply not wanting a biography of the individual is not a basis for deleting it, when numerous books on religion have extensive coverage. Edison (talk) 19:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep McKean is essentially responsible for the creation of the International Churches of Christ and International Christian Churches... I'd call THAT a significant body of work, and the RSes are plentiful. Jclemens (talk) 00:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and just for kicks and giggles, I also have an offline source in my personal library which discusses him: Hooper, Robert E, A Distinct People: A History of the Churches of Christ in the 20th Century, Howard Publishing, 1993, ISBN 1878990268. Jclemens (talk) 00:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Obviously notable and as Edison and Jclemens show, plenty of sources exist. Edward321 (talk) 00:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I think there is room for honoring a request for a deletion when the nominated article is in a grey area, but this isn't even close to the line Vartanza (talk) 06:57, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep appears to meet the GNG simply by virtue of the Google news items, and the other sources given above make it clear that he's notable. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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