Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiran Tabeer (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Mojo Hand (talk) 04:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Kiran Tabeer
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Non-notable actress. The cited sources exhibit none of the characteristics of reliable sources or lack independence (TV channels touting their own shows). All lack significant coverage.

None of the following have a reputation for accuracy and fact-checking: modelsfashionpk.com, pakistani.pk, awamiweb.com, springmediabubble.com, pakistanidramahd.com, dramaguru.net, dramalyrics.com, festbyte.com, moviesplatter.com, tv.com.pk, pakistani.pk, and hipinpakistan.com. They appear to be mostly self-published or group blogs, with no indication of editorial oversight. Modelsfashionpk offers to let models "configure his/her biography details". Pakistani.pk lets users register and add listings. Festbyte also accepts user-submitted content. Hipinpakistan encourages readers to contribute articles.

Draft:Kiran Tabeer(Pakistani actress) was declined for the above reasons at Articles for creation. The author had asserted that "there are few [newspaper or magazine references] but all in Urdu". They were informed that it would be fine to cite any reliable Urdu sources that exist, but that the English sources above are not reliable and should be removed. Instead they copied and pasted the draft to article space (minus the AfC decline and comments) and had the draft deleted.

Without significant coverage in reliable sources, does not meet WP:GNG. According to the article, her current TV role is her first lead one. The show has a Wikipedia article, but it is flagged for notability (its only source is the TV channel that airs it). The other three shows in which she has had lesser parts and that have Wikipedia articles are also flagged for notability. With only one significant role and appearances only in shows of questionable notability, does not satisfy WP:NACTOR either. Worldbruce (talk) 14:59, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce (talk) 15:00, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce (talk) 15:00, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Note Lets delete it under G7 and close it. --Saqib (talk) 16:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi! I would like to tell you that I included new references from Dawn, Geo and other reliable sites. So, I will remove those sources which you asked to be unreliable. And also, the actress's lead role is not the serial she is currently working in. She performed many lead roles before too. I would also like to state that the sources which you told me that are unreliable have been quoted by me after discussing it with other experienced users who edit articles related to the same topic. For example, Sarah Khan and Maham Amir have the same sites as mine. So why only my article has been nominated for deletion? Thank you Knightrises10 (talk) 15:19, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Actors are not something that would be expected to have an article on English Wikipedia, unless they have done leading roles in soaps, films et cetera and I can't find a single RS which verifies that she has had major roles in TV soaps. Thus fails both GNG as well ACTORBIO. --Saqib (talk) 16:39, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I tried to add sources that could get it kept but i can't find anything that could make this a keep. Maybe in a few years she will notable enough but not now. btw Knightrises10 just because other articles that are similar are kept has no bearing on whether this article should be kept or not.JC7V7DC5768 (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Then those similar articles should be deleted too. Knightrises10 (talk) 20:22, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Or you people can give the article some more time, so that other Pakistani users including me can improve it further Knightrises10 (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TOOSOON, minor roles in some major productions do not meet the requirements of WP:NACTOR and there is no significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. GSS (talk |c|em ) 15:25, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Those weren't minor roles, as I already told. Wikipedia admins, reviewers are biased, especially against Pakistani users and the new ones. They think that only they are correct. You can delete the article, I asked you already!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightrises10 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * comment There is, or at least was, an assertion of importance, so G7 doesn't apply. It's in Wikipedia's best interest to let the AfD run its course. The topic was created in 2016, and at least three times so far in 2018 (in draft and article space). Editors who don't follow our policies and guidelines are likely to keep creating the topic. Let's get consensus on the record that at this time these are the best sources available, and they don't demonstrate notability. Then any future article can be speedily G4'd unless its sourcing clearly improves on this effort. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:48, 28 July 2018 (UTC)


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