Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiryukov Music College


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Dane 2007  talk 02:01, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Kiryukov Music College

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Cannot find any independent sources proving the school exists as per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES Acalycine (talk) 09:44, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:24, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:24, 31 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment I used Google Translate to convert into Russian, searched with that, and basically found nothing, either. There's a chance this is actually the SARANSK MUSICAL COLLEGE, which this link says was named after a "L.P. Kiryukov" -- but this isn't a reliable source either. Very odd. To compound things, the Mordvin language isn't an option with Google Translate, which is spoken by almost half the population. Yes, for a music college so old and purportedly accomplished, it's hard to find a reliable source, using a Russian translation of either version of the name. Perhaps a Russian Wikipedian can help. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:45, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep- I think this article should be kept, but it sounds like a book, so it should be rewritten completely.Audi1merc2 (talk) 11:45, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:VERIFY in its current state, and 's efforts to find sources suggest that we won't easily be able to fix this. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, this one is Saransk Musical College L. P. Kiryukova, and can be verified. I will be back in half an hour and will add a reference. — Sam Sailor Talk! 23:57, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:43, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: This is your Mordovian Julliard School/Royal Academy of Music/Hochscule für Musik/Academia Santa Cecilia, and is correct in their findings, this is Saransk Musical College L. P. Kiryukova (Саранское музыкальное училище им. Л. П. Кирюкова) named after Mordovian composer . I did a GUC on page creator, found their image on Commons, did a Google Reverse Image Search, and the rest was just plain searching and Google translation. I have added a Cite book and begun an infobox. . — Sam Sailor Talk! 01:05, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I've struck my comment for now. I would still like to see more evidence of sources establishing notability, which I presume exist given your assessment of the importance of the college, and which should be easier to find now that we have the full name. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:45, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep- obviously a notable music school. Somewht spammy but it can be edited down and the unsourced obviously unintentional promotional claims removed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:36, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Overall, this has enough RS to meet GNG. KGirlTrucker81talk what I'm been doing 20:05, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


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