Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kit Watkins


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep as per consensus and the absence of deletion requests outside of the AfD nominator. Non-admin closure. Warrah (talk) 00:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Kit Watkins

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DELETE. Google News Archives search reveals a tiny handful of passing mentions, but no substantial coverage seems to exist from reliable third party sources. I'm near certain that this was created as an autobiography, as this has been copiously edited by one User:Kitwatkins. -- JBsupreme ( talk ) 18:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Founder member of Happy the Man, member of Camel, appears to have quite a large discography, some available from Amazon resellers . -- Boing!   said Zebedee  18:36, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * We cannot keep unsourced WP:BLP articles, and the discogs page doesn't provide anything substantial either. Both Happy the Man and Camel are unsourced as well but perhaps that can be corrected.  What do you suggest?   JBsupreme  ( talk ) ✄ ✄ ✄	 19:09, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there a general "Delete all unsourced BLP articles" policy now? I think it should have its sourcing improved, though I wasn't suggesting sources to use (I don't really have the time to spare myself) - I was just showing some evidence that suggests he might be sufficiently notable to avoid deletion. -- Boing!   said Zebedee  19:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing with you, I'm asking you what you think the best solution is. I have searched and have found nothing substantial about this person in reliable sources.  If it can be improved, wonderful.  I don't see evidence that it can.  In those specific cases we do tend to delete WP:BLP articles, yes.   JBsupreme  ( talk ) ✄ ✄ ✄	 19:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, sounds cool - I guess we need to wait and see if User:Shoessss, below, can come up with some good refs. -- Boing!   said Zebedee  20:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep – Sorry to say sourcing, is an edit issue, not a reason for deletion. I have always felt it was the responsibility of all editors, when they come across situations like this, that it it is much easier to reference the piece than propose for deletion.  With that said, just based on his association with Happy The Man as shown here  Mr. Watkins meets our criteria for inclusion here at Wikipedia.  I’ll add some sources over the next couple of days, based on the references found above.  .  Thanks. ShoesssS Talk 19:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - I was able to find many sources on this individual. Many might not pass reliability, but there were several that definitely would.  Additionally though there is probably a conflict of interest by editor Kitwatkins that is no reason to delete the article, much of the content seems to come from other editors.  Narthring (talk  • contribs) 01:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Concur with Narthring and Shoessss - sources exist. Green Cardamom (talk) 19:54, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * "Sources exist" is not a particularly helpful comment in this case. We know that peripheral sources exist.  Do sources exist which document this particular person in detail?  I will gladly withdraw this nomination if evidence of such can be presented.   JBsupreme  ( talk ) ✄ ✄ ✄	 07:48, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.