Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kitsune in popular culture (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Kitsune. History is under the redirect if someone wants to selectively merge Star   Mississippi  02:40, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Kitsune in popular culture
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Redirect was contested. The page is a clear failure of WP:LISTN and an undue popular culture fork that is almost entirely WP:OR. Better off discussed in the parent article than here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:52, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Kitsune. Much of the same arguments from the last AfD still apply. It's still mostly WP:OR and fails WP:NOTTRIVIA/WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 18:29, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Looking closer at the edit history, it also seems to have been recreated in 2015 with no improvement from the 2007 version that was deleted. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:56, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I did a full history export to https://cultural-phenomenons.fandom.com/wiki/Kitsune_in_popular_culture  D r e a m Focus  21:48, 18 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete. Ugh. What a mess. Hard case of WP:NOTTRIVIA. Could this be notable? Perhaps. Is there any indication of this in the current list of random works in which the theme appears? No. Do I think this listicle is salvageable? No. WP:TNT applies. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:36, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete fancruft and listcruft. Dronebogus (talk) 07:09, 20 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Cut out unsourced and merge what's left. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:14, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge where? Dronebogus (talk) 08:24, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * And for that matter, merge WHAT? Dronebogus (talk) 16:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I see ONE reference that actually, clearly discusses the creature in question and it’s not even a true Kitsune! Dronebogus (talk) 16:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete and potentially G1 per stated above. PerryPerryD Talk To Me 14:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * G1 definitely doesn’t apply but that’s beside the point. Dronebogus (talk) 16:02, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You might be thinking of WP:G4 Dronebogus (talk) 16:07, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, yes i was PerryPerryD  Talk To Me 16:59, 21 March 2022 (UTC)


 * comment there is a consensus (4 delete + 1 redirect) that the article is unsalvageable. The one merge vote would require cutting virtually the entire page to salvage one unspectacular source. In addition the article is potentially a case of WP:G4 (recreating deleted content with zero improvement). In light of all this it might be appropriate to WP:SNOW close this. Clearly nothing is lost by doing so and the article can be re-drafted from scratch if someone can actually source it. Dronebogus (talk) 16:10, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge the sourced entry from Lovecraft Country to Kumiho and redirect this to Kitsune, where contemporary portrayal is already mentioned, including the sourced entry for Babymetal. The topic, kitsune in popular culture, I think is notable, because it e.g. The Ashgate Encyclopedia of Literary and Cinematic Monsters has an entry on this which also refers to several other secondary sources, therefore "a clear failure of WP:LISTN" seems incorrect. The list currently is in bad shape. But I think it should be preserved in the form of a redirect for future improvement, as experience has shown that some of the entries will be notable after all, and it could be used as a starting point for expansion. Daranios (talk) 19:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I like that idea. Dronebogus (talk) 06:48, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Kitsune per WP:CHEAP. I wouldn't be opposed to someone merging over the sourced content while this AfD is underway. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:48, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge Puglia1999 (talk) 23:48, 25 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.