Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kittin Is High


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to BatBox. PhilKnight (talk) 16:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Kittin Is High

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Non-charting single fails WP:NSONGS. Snotty Wong  verbalize 18:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep It is the lead single from Miss Kittin's charting album BatBox and can have enough information to go beyond stub class. More importantly, many singles have pages on wikipedia with little information or have not charted such as the electro-pop songs Hot Chick (Uffie song) and Difficult (song) by Uffie, I Feel Cream (song) by Peaches, Sow into You by Róisín Murphy, My Man (Yoko Ono song) and Never Say Goodbye (Yoko Ono song) by Yoko Ono. What signifies this song for deletion over these other songs? Burnberrytree (talk) 21:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. Show how the album passes any of the criteria at WP:NSONGS, using reliable sources to back up your claims.    Snotty Wong   soliloquize 21:20, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The album BatBox charted in France, Belgium (both Wallonia and Flanders for they have sperate charts) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burnberrytree (talk • contribs)
 * This article not about the album BatBox, it is about the song Kittin Is High. Here is the relevant passage from WP:NSONGS that I'm talking about:  Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable.  Has this song (not the album that it's on) been ranked on significant music charts (i.e. a singles chart), or has it won a significant award or honor?   Snotty Wong   converse 21:40, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You asked about the album, sorry. In general, if the musician or ensemble is notable, then their officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia. Unreleased material (including demos, mixtapes, bootlegs, promo-only recordings) are in general not notable; however, they may be notable if they have significant independent coverage in reliable sources. Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting. Kittin Is High is from a notable artist Miss Kittin, who has had chart success with several albums and singles, and it is an official release.  The article is more than a track listing for the single. Furthermore, the music video and album cover for its vinyl single  were designed by the notable creater of Emily the Strange, Rob Reger. Futhermore, it was produced by a notable producer Pascal Gabriel. And the description you provided about a song's notability based on charts and awards says "probably notable," implying that a song does not have to meet this criteria to have a wikipedia page. Burnberrytree (talk) 22:15, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, you're right. My comments above did mistakenly ask you to show how the album passes notability criteria, not the song.  My apologies.  However, the quote you've provided above states that if a musician or ensemble is notable, then their albums are usually notable.  However, not every individual song by a notable artist is notable enough for its own standalone article.  Generally, if the song charted on a singles chart, that is usually a free ride to notability.    Snotty Wong   speak 22:32, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 22:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:38, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to BatBox. It didn't chart, receive awards etc so isn't suitable for a standalone article, but it's a plausible search term and WP:NSONGS allows for a redirect to the parent album. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 07:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to BatBox. Merge to BatBox . A quick search confirms the single didn't chart, and the review linked is for the album, not the single. Any info specific to the single can be discussed in the BatBox article; in fact, that article could use some additional prose as it's pretty bare now. 28bytes (talk) 10:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Changing to redirect to help build consensus. 28bytes (talk) 01:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Redirect to BatBox Since BatBox is still a very short article it makes little sense to have an article on a single, especially if it didn't chart on its own. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 12:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.