Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiva Kahl


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. There are a number of good policy-based arguments on all sides, but despite thorough discussion I do not see a clear consensus to delete, redirect, or merge the article. -- jonny - m t  13:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Kiva Kahl

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per whoever nominated NewAtThis (talk) 11:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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Contested PROD post-deletion. Original PROD rationale was, "NN performer. 12 appearances on Letterman in five years isn't a lot, especially with very little else in the way of appearances. Most of the press coverage on her official site is trivial, and GHits are brief mentions only." SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Only role is trivial in nature, and she's not the subject of any reliable sources. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 04:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * She's been on the show many dozens of times, during each of which she was viewed by millions of TV viewers. Her role on the Letterman show is small, but it's moderately spectacular in its own way, and she's an established long-running figure on the show... AnonMoos (talk) 04:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Make redirect to The Late Show with David Letterman. She doesn't seem notable outside the show, but the redirect would still be handy. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 05:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the Late Show with David Letterman.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 05:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Late Show with David Letterman. That article seems like it could handle a short section on her appearances on the show. Celarnor Talk to me  06:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, there are a few sources like Der Spiegel on an appearance she did for Richard Branson that indicate some international name recognition. Matched with the NYT piece we satisfy WP:BIO. --Dhartung | Talk 06:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * keepnotable enoughNewAtThis (talk) 11:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Nontrivial IMDB page including 12 documented Letterman appearances in the past 9 months alone; notable as member of AntiGravity (which survived a deletion debate in 2004); reasonable assertion of press coverage on her home page. The article is weak, not the subject herself. –BozoTheScary (talk) 13:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Addendum Dozens of YouTube videos with thousands of views and consistent 4 and 5 star ratings (a couple with tens of thousands of views); twice mentioned on the Sketches on Letterman page; mentioned on the cbs.com website 40 times (the dates lending support to the hypothesis that IMDB is substantially understating the number of her appearances); also appears (on Letterman) eating fire with an albino snake around her neck; bio page mentions performances on Broadway, at Sundance Film Festival, and 2002 Olympic Winter Games –BozoTheScary (talk) 15:17, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep For all the reasons listed above. Appearences on Letterman number in the hundreds.  With all due respect to IMDB, the "12" appearences listed there is wrong.  Appearence with AntiGravity is notable, as well as the fact that she has a successfull touring schedule (information about which should probably be added to the article with approporate citations). Fish Man (talk) 18:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 15:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Late Show with David Letterman. Yes, she's clearly notable, but there just isn't that much to say about her; given that, I think she'd be better covered as a subsection of the Late Show article, since that's what her notability mostly relates to. Terraxos (talk) 05:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.