Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiyoshi Shiina (3rd nomination)


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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:28, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Kiyoshi Shiina
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Subject is not notable. An attempt has been made to demonstrate notability by bombarding the article with references, all of which are either trivial or from non-reliable sources. Article was deleted in AFD in 2011, then re-nominated in 2014, gaining no consensus. In both discussions it was apparent that canvassing was happening. Main author has been permanently blocked for sock puppetting.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  13:49, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:56, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:57, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Weak delete: To me it seems like the general notability guidelines are not met. Judo itself doesn't seem to have a consensus of notability criteria up (yet), but comparing it to kickboxing and mixxed martial arts, he doesn't seem to pass. Mr. Shiina has neither fought any major / notable tournament nor do we have any reliable third party sources... the article itself actually doesn't look too bad. And from what I saw on the talk page you actually spent some time improving it, Catfish . How come you're now nominating? Just ended up deciding it's not enough for GNG? In either case - Mr. Shiina seems to be a competent and qualified person, but passes neither general GNG nor general sports notability. The issue to me seem to be the (non-available) third party sources.-- Ruhri  Jörg  15:13, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I did a fair bit of work on it to try to help a new editor, but ultimately there is nothing out there on him other than trivial mentions. I'm nominating the article now because it popped up in my watched pages today... that's all.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  15:27, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete This person does not even have a page on Japanese Wikipedia which shows that he is not even notable in Japan. If someone born in Japan since 1937 does not even have an article on ja.wiki then his right to exist on en.wiki is questionable. --Ernesztina (talk) 20:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:20, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete There is no significant coverage from independent reliable sources. Passing mentions are not enough to show notability and he doesn't meet WP:MANOTE.  Nothing has really changed from the previous discussions. Papaursa (talk) 20:33, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete no independent reliable sources. Reddragon7 (talk) 04:55, 4 March 2019 (UTC)


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