Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiyoshi Yoshida


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep all. It appears this AFDs grasp exceeded its reach, suggest re-evaluating articles on an individual basis as opposed to a bundled nom. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:05, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Kiyoshi Yoshida

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The only information on this person is that he/she (the article does not mention the gender) composed the music for one film that wasn't even that famous. Does not at all seem notable. Will rethink if expanded JDDJS (talk) 20:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No references have been presented which satisfy WP:BIO. No real claim of notability. Edison (talk) 21:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

This film has won multiple awards, see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808506/awards Splouge (talk) 21:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * But none for the music. One film does not make him/her notable. JDDJS (talk) 21:29, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Another editor has bought the following articles to my attention. These are also anime composers who only have one, or in some cases none, major work mentioned on their pages. I may not be doing this correctly, but I feel they should be added to this AFD. JDDJS (talk) 22:58, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Masaki Kurihara
 * 2) Kousuke Yamashita
 * 3) Makoto Yoshimori (composer)
 * 4) Keita Haga
 * 5) Junpei Fujita
 * 6) Hijiri Anze
 * 7) Ken muramatsu
 * 8) Takeshi Senoo
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 05:11, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete This is a difficult case. It doesn't help when the majority of the articles have as the entire text, is a Japanese composer.  All but one article only has references to IMDB and the Anime News Network (ANN).  ANN is user generated content, so it is not reliable. So, I'm left with hunting down sources and I'm not finding reliable ones.  Unless somebody else can find anything, I'll have to say they don't meet WP:COMPOSER and delete all. Bgwhite (talk) 06:14, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The primary sources can easily confirm the information, just check the credits in the DVD package or in the credits at the end.  D r e a m Focus  13:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if I had the DVD packages, it still wouldn't matter. It wouldn't necessarily fulfill WP:Composer and GNG states significant sources is need to establish notability. Bgwhite (talk) 22:03, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete all until reliable sources can be found. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:32, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * My case was that there were many anime composers that had significant contributions already noted in Wikipedia and I first wanted to add stubs then add the references. Adding references can take a large amount of time and it would be good if rather than proposing for deletion others also looked for and added references. It would be helpful if more people who contribute to anime articles that list composers could also expand composer articles. Splouge (talk) 06:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I've added all the links that I could find for now. Splouge (talk) 21:15, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete all. Not seeing any reliable sourcing to verify notability. --DAJF (talk) 12:27, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Kiyoshi Yoshida easily meets WP:MUSICBIO. Has done the theme song for a notable series, and music for a notable film, plus music on various other notable series.   D r e a m Focus  12:54, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Takeshi Senoo - several of the Aria soundtracks have charted on Oricon, and therefore he meets WP:MUSICBIO. --Malkinann (talk) 21:12, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you point to where this is found. I will then change my position on Senoo. Bgwhite (talk) 22:03, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * His involvement and peak positions of the soundtracks are listed on List of Aria soundtracks. --Malkinann (talk) 22:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The AFDs should be separated, not all jumbled together. Many of these people have worked on notable soundtracks for animated films.   D r e a m Focus  17:23, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Takeshi Senoo List of Takeshi Senoo's albums ranked on Oricon. Moscowconnection (talk) 16:23, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I also think that the AfD should be separated. Moscowconnection (talk) 16:23, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Kousuke Yamashita. His "Kurosagi" OST ranked on Oricon. Moscowconnection (talk) 16:31, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep with the caveat of whatever can be sourced and translated. Anime has a huge market in Japan, and there's no reason their composers should be non-notable merely because of the genre. Bearian (talk) 19:18, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep All. I'm changing my vote to "Keep all". Why should these very different composers be deleted as a list? It's a very dangerous practice. What are the inclusion criteria? "These are also anime composers who only have one, or in some cases none, major work mentioned on their pages."? It's rather vague. Moscowconnection (talk) 22:49, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Kiyoshi Yoshida's Oricon profile also lists 4 DVDs that charted. Moscowconnection (talk) 22:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 *  Keep Kousuke Yamashita and Kiyoshi Yoshida - per Moscowconnection, these people's works have charted on Oricon, therefore meeting WP:MUSICBIO. --Malkinann (talk) 23:30, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Kiyoshi Yoshida. The only reason I give: mentioned in Cavalaro's book.  James470 (talk) 15:53, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


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