Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klopman diamond


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The result was keep. John254 00:10, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Klopman diamond

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Largely unsourced in joke, used only in Garfield & Friends. Only source is Mark Evanier. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 23:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC) 
 * Delete. Not notable. Just a joke. Malinaccier (talk) 00:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete indeed. Not a bad joke, but not an encyclopedic article. Drmies (talk) 02:45, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Garfield and Friends and merge a few of the details of the gag within that section.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 05:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, it is just a joke, and is non notable. Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  23:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable. Not particularly funny, either. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge It's much older than Garfield. I've got a Myron Cohen record from the 1960s in which he invokes that joke, complete with standard ethnic Jewish accents. It's probably much older than that. Hard to imagine it needs an entire article, though. If anything, it belongs with Hope Diamond, as the Hope Diamond is the comparison being made: "It's like the Hope Diamond. It comes with a curse." What's the curse? "Mr. Klopman!" Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 18:41, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Whether it's funny or not is OR. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 08:03, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as per the Cohen reference really, a running gag that transcends genres and decades. At a pinch I suppose it could be merged as a subsection into Hope Diamond as it is a gag directly derived from that entity. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge to Myron Cohen, but not Garfield and Friends. Google Books shows some sources. I've got "The Haunted Smile: The Story of Jewish Comedians in America‎" which explains the joke, as well as "1002 Humorous Illustrations for Public Speaking". I've found other books and news articles written that assume the reader is familiar with this joke, so it must be a famous joke, i.e. there's a book about wine called the "Wine Avenger" which in a section on etiquette starts with If some waitron in an apron presents you with a wine cork as if it were the Klopman Diamond, just say ... Squidfryerchef (talk) 02:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  01:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * keep per the references mentioned above. Umbralcorax (talk) 03:19, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Appears to be a well established joke that predates Garfield and Friends. ThePointblank (talk) 06:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - this joke has been a long-running feature of at least one standup comedian's act, and was then adopted as a long-running feature of a cartoon. It has to be notable. - Richard Cavell (talk) 07:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


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