Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klosterbergen


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The result was   keep. the necessary modifications have now been made  DGG ( talk ) 06:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Klosterbergen
There has never been a school with the name "Klosterbergen" in or around Anklam. The only school Klosterbergen is in Reinbek. The article refers to Johann Christoph Adelung, who went to schools in Anklam, Magdeburg, and Halle. There was indeed once a school in the old monestary Kloster Berge in Magdeburg, which was destroyed by Napoleon's troops. Johann Christoph Adelung was one of its alumni. See de:Kloster Berge. The expression "zu Klosterbergen" which can be found on Google is an older dative form for modern "in Kloster Berge". -- PhJ (talk) 08:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, there is pretty much everything wrong in this short article. Additionally to what PhJ says, Grundschule (primary school) ≠ Kindergarten (pre-primary school). --Pgallert (talk) 09:41, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Rewrite and move. As PhJ states, there was a school worthy of an article, or at least a section of an article, at Kloster Berge: de:Kloster Berge; this was the Gymnasium attended by Adelung and the article creator appears to have confused what a source said, such as this. Scads of sources mention the school; the question is whether teh article should be rewritten to be about the school with the correct title and info, or emulate German Wikipedia and cover the school only as a section of an article on the monastery, which we apparently don't have an article on.Yngvadottir (talk) 18:53, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Move to a more suitable name. TerriersFan (talk) 02:04, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Rewriting would mean we would have to change the whole contents, except for the information on Johann Christoph Adelung, as Kloster Berge was no school and it wouldn't be useful to create an own article on the school inside the monastery of Kloster Berge. But if someone is ready to write an article on Kloster Berge now, then go on. -- PhJ (talk) 06:28, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * As I say, I am honestly not sure which would be more useful to en.wikipedia - an article on the abbey/monastery (there are 2 or 3 mentions of it in existing articles and it's easy enough to translate the de.wikipedia article) or a brief article on the school, which from the short Google Books search I did, is mentioned all over the place - and the author of this article clearly thought the school was what needed an article. I'm leaning towards the latter. Thoughts? Yngvadottir (talk) 15:30, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I have rewritten it (and started referencing it - found a book on the school, for starters) and moved it to Kloster Berge school.Yngvadottir (talk) 18:47, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 04:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Good work Yngvadottir. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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