Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Knicks4life


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Mailer Diablo 09:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Knicks4life
Vanity article for a non-notable web forum. Google hits (Knicks4life):748. Alexa traffic rank: 4,564,884 --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  06:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment: Hello, I am a staff member of this website and it is the second largest New York Knicks website on the internet. It has gotten many responses in the newspapers and radio stations. I believes it should be kept on because it is a legitimate website with much more traffic than just "Google hits" and has a lot of dedicated and loyal fans. Wikipedia readers should have the right to know about a great website like this. Thank you, Knea2006 06:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. Fails WP:WEB. Unverifiable claims. Medtopic 06:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:WEB, poor Google presence and Alexa rank, no WP:RS for claims about media mentions. -- Kinu t /c  06:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Knea2006 06:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Let the site have it's own Wikipedia. The site supports stuff like the origins of O RLY?! and IBTL, which are both rarely used on online message boards. But a site as big as Knicks4Life can't get recognition? I fail to see it.Knea2006 06:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - From the two posts Knea2006 has left on this deletion discussion I think it's pretty clear that this Wikipedia entry is just a promotion for a non-notable site. Also, in response to Knea2006's first post, maybe if your site were the largest and not the second largest New York Knicks website on the internet it would be notbale enough for an article, but it's not so it doesn't deserve an article.--Mertens21 07:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Knea2006 18:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)What you people still fail to see is that you make absolutely no sense at all. I just mentioned that you have other much more less notable things on here and you an't even put up a faily-big website. Standards? It's one of the biggest Knick FAN sites on the internet. That's a big enough standard for me.Knea2006 18:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:WEB. Google showing and Alexa rank show it's far below meeting the minimum for websites. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  12:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete -- nn. - Longhair 16:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - wikipedia is not a web directory -- Whpq 17:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * You're not the first person who's made that argument -- it doesn't work. The AFD review team is really busy and we nominate/review articles as we see them. Feel free to nominate yourself at: Articles_for_deletion. Anyway, O RLY passes the Notability (web) test. i.e. "The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself." So if your site has been mentioned elsewhere in print, then by all means post the link and we'll consider it. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  18:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I will search for a link or mention or whatever need be. Thank you.Knea2006 20:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable web site. -Royalguard11Talk 23:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Alright nerds, listen up: I cannot find the NY Post article in which we are mentioned because it was a very long time ago but we have interviewed writers of the NY Times and NY Post before as a website and even interviewed people from ESPN 1050, a sports radio station here in New York. We've also gotten a few mentions on that radio station as well. A link? http://www.knicks4life.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10575 That's the best I can give you. People who love their website. Too bad you people are too stuck up to care. Thank you for your time, goodbye.Knea2006 23:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Haha. Intellectually superior? What makes you think that? Because you sit behind a computer all day decidng the fate of Wikipedia? If someone wants to search for Knicks sites on Wiki he'll find this on there. It's one of the best sites on the internet. What harm will it cause for it to remain up there? I don't see any insults or pornographic images. I just see a successful website wanting to expand it's image. Let up a little bit, would you?Knea2006 03:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - Wikipedia is for people all over the world so just because your site was mentioned in a few New York newspapers, although they are well known newspapers in the United States, not even everyone in the U.S. reads them so their not country-wide much less world-wide. Therefore your site being mentioned once in two popular U.S. newspapers doesn't make it notable to all the other English-speaking countries who use the english version of Wikipedia.  Also, there's no reason to call people nerds just because they're intellectually superior to you and you aren't even intelligent enough to come up with a good reason to keep your article posted.--Mertens21 a.k.a. FrodoTBagins, DonkeyPunch21, Squirrel 03:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - Once again your intelligence is just astonishing. First of all “You sit behind your computer all day” is not a very accurate statement seeing as any intelligent person (which explains why you wouldn't notice) can see by the timestamp that I'm on around the same time every day and not “all day.”  Also, you have no room to say anything about people being on the computer all day.  I went to your forum site that you posted here and it's pretty much just 50 posts from you talking about this article and crying about how it's going to get deleted.  And one more thing, considering you just said I sit at the computer all day and post on Wikipedia you sure replied fast to my last post.  It's almost as if you sit at home all day watching this just to see who else has come here to let you know that your web site is completely unimportant to anyone.--Mertens21 a.k.a. FrodoTBagins, DonkeyPunch21, Squirrel 04:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * More To Add To My Previous Comment - I just thought I'd add that your web site is most definitely not “one of the best sites on the internet.” It is in fact, quite possibly, one of the worst sites on the internet, which is one more reason it doesn't deserve an article.  Also, I'd appreciate if you didn't come here and babble incoherently about “insults and pornographic images.”  I don't know what that has to do with anything so if you could just keep your porn addiction to yourself that would be great.  Thanks, Mertens21 a.k.a. FrodoTBagins, DonkeyPunch21, Squirrel 04:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha. Who do you think you are, tool? You think you are someone special because you can decide the fate of Wiki articles? Who gives a rats ass what you can do? Listen up buddy, you don't intimidate me and your attempt to "own" me failed. Also showing your ignorance was the fact that you insulted a website that has done nothing to you. Calling it one of the "worst sites on the internet" is not what you should be doing. Nowhere did I say it was the best on the 'net. I said it was the best KNICKS sites on the web. Now, aside from reading Harry Potter books and pleasuring yourself to Star Trek episodes, do you have any idea who or what the Knicks are? Because from what I can see, you have none. So please, spare me the preaching and the attempt to act like a smart aleck. I've been there and done that and dealt with people like you, who think you are someone special because you work on wikipedia. Whoopdeedamndoo brother, what in the hell is that supposed to mean? I'm supposed to respect you? I don't even know you! So get whatever is out of your ass and act like a human being, rather than a robotic mouthpiece for wikipedia.Knea2006 04:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - And yet again you're intelligence astonishes me. However if you could stop with the childish insults for a second and learn how to read you would see that you did in fact say that it was the best site on the internet so just in case you do learn how to read I will quote you from your earlier post and highlight the incredibly unintelligent statement contained within it.
 * Quote: “Haha. Intellectually superior? What makes you think that? Because you sit behind a computer all day decidng the fate of Wikipedia? If someone wants to search for Knicks sites on Wiki he'll find this on there. ‘It's one of the best sites on the internet.’ What harm will it cause for it to remain up there? I don't see any insults or pornographic images. I just see a successful website wanting to expand it's image. Let up a little bit, would you?Knea2006 03:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)”
 * Now that you've been embarrassed repeatedly and tried to redeem yourself repeatedly with foolish and childish insults, which, as stated in a previous post, make absolutely no sense, I would suggest that you just give up trying to sound intelligent, get off your computer, leave your mom's basement, and go out and get a job so perhaps someday you can pay for an education. Thank you for your time, I've enjoyed making you look like an incompetent ass, although you didn't need my help, have a nice day.  Also, I realize your going to respond with yet another childish insult and call me a “doo doo head” or whatever, but I'm not going to continue trying to convince you that your web site is not one of the best on the internet and not even one of the best Knicks sites on the internet because you are obviously to incompetent to realize that.  Once again thank you for using Wikipedia, try putting your article on one of the many gay porn sites you visit.--Mertens21 a.k.a. FrodoTBagins, DonkeyPunch21, Squirrel 05:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

LOL, what a classless tool. So, I made a mistake. The point was it is one of the best KNICK sites on the internet. Why don't you get your head out of your sarcastic, stuck up ass and realize you are a nobody? Mother's basement? You wish buddy. The only ass you've seen is yours in the mirror of your bathroom. You have your opinion about the site, I have mine, but to fall to the levels of calling the sites "one of the worst sites on the internet" is a disgrace for a wikipedia "employee." How did you get your position anyway? Seems like you have no sense of humor though, especially not with that lame gay porn joke. Get a life dude. No, seriously. Get one. Knea2006 05:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

May I remind both of you the following two rules here: --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  06:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Civility
 * Please do not bite the newcomers
 * I already said in my last post that I was done arguing so why don't you check your tone, and if this guy wants to keep calling people names and promoting his web site we'll see how cool he feels when no one responds and his site's article gets deleted.--Mertens21 a.k.a. FrodoTBagins, DonkeyPunch21, Squirrel 07:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Also the only thing this “newcomer” has done on Wikipedia is try to promote his web site so the Please do not bite the newcomers rule doesn't apply.--Mertens21 a.k.a. FrodoTBagins, DonkeyPunch21, Squirrel 07:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I would also like to remove all of the arguement if it's OK with  Netsnipe  (Talk) , considering it has absolutely no purpose in this deletion discussion. So   Netsnipe  (Talk)  if you agree that the arguement should be deleted let me know on my talk page so we don't take up anymore of the deletion page.--Mertens21 a.k.a. FrodoTBagins, DonkeyPunch21, Squirrel 08:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, yes, but ofcourse. Now the arrogant Mertens21 acts like the holier-than-thou person that he's supposed to be.Knea2006 17:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Might I add, it is not MY site as Meretens keeps repeating. I am just a writer for the website and the fact is, the article would've been deleted either way because of the fact it doesn't meet the "criteria" to be listed on Wikipedia.Knea2006 21:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I hope this AFD doesn't put you off from contributing to Wikipedia forever especially on NBA-related articles. An AFD nomination on your very first article can be a very demoralising experience I know and some people do take it personally, but these rules exist to stop people promoting themselves, bands, companies, websites etc, because if we let everyone do it, then Wikipedia will start to lose its reputation for being an independent source of information. --  Netsnipe  (Talk)  22:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not promoting. It's a legit website that should be on Wikipedia in my respectful opinion.Knea2006 23:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.