Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Knights of Columbus Hall in Arlington Heights


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 06:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Knights of Columbus Hall in Arlington Heights
Not quite sure what to make of this one. Article claims it's a notable music venue. Is it? Fall Out Boy played there, but then Fall Out Boy's played at a lot places. The article claims that the hall is second only to the Fireside Bowl, but then the Fireside Bowl itself doesn't have an article. I guess the question is, does the sum total of all the bands that've played there amount to notability? I say no. At the end of the day, it's K of C hall in some suburb in Illinois. I could be wrong, though. Herostratus 23:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

http://www.cfreradio.com/interviews/falloutboy.html Here is a direct quote from an MTV Article "It's pretty insane that a band that used to play Knights of Columbus [halls] in Arlington Heights, Illinois, is now up for a Grammy," said Pete Wentz of first-time nominees Fall Out Boy http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1517699/12082005/carey_mariah.jhtml
 * Speedy delete, nn building. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into or mention in, Fallout-Boy and/ or Knight's of Columbus main article. Knowing Is Half The Battle 23:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete NN building. Dionyseus 23:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, but a mention in the main Knights of Columbus may be warranted. Rarr 22:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, This particular hall has served and continues to serve the Chicago suburban music scene and was influencial in bringing Chicago punk rock into popular music. In addition to Fall Out Boy, early incarnations of Rise Against( Dreamwords Records) also got its beginnings at this venue. This article is obviously in it's early stages and will need a lot more references (which do exist) but it is of notable significance to the Chicago punk rock scene. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thebno (talk • contribs).
 * (N.B. Thebno, a new Wikipedian, is the author of the article. Given his statement above, I think Userfy for now might be a valid option.) Herostratus 17:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you supply us with verification of your contention of the importance of the location? Links to major publications which discuss its importance?  User:Zoe|(talk) 20:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * PETE WENTZ:  "We had a lot of the bands. I mean, the bands that we grew up with are starting to go places now. We have Spitalfield and then our little brothers, who are like from the same scene, The Academy Is. It was kind of a scene that was built around us and we kind of did it in Knights of Columbus Hall. We did it by ourselves where people wouldn't book us in the city, and it's really about the people and the younger kids. It's a place where we can still go back. I went and saw The Academy Is at the Knights of Columbus Hall and kids don't harass you and bother you and you don't feel like you are like this star or whatever. It was really cool because it just feels like home and people ask how you've been and congratulate you and stuff, but at the same time, it doesn't feel awkward. I love it, it's the best place I have ever been I guess."

Here is another article from New City Chicago with Fall Out Boy referencing the Arlington Heights Knights of Columbus http://www.newcitychicago.com/chicago/4395.html

There is a whole history behind how the Knights of Columbus became an environment where Illinois garage bands developed into mainstream punk bands, which didn't just happen over night. That is why I felt the need to create this page because it has never been properly documented before, and what better place than wikipedia. User:Thebno
 * The MTV link you quoted above kind of makes the case that this place is not notable. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.